"From each according to ability; to each according to need."

That is a basic statement of communism, and a more egregious violation of human rights would be hard to find.

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I suppose you could view it as stealing property. But theft still does not rank up with genocide.

It could be viewed as stealing a person's life, which is right up there on the bad scale.

I have heard way too many people say that communism was never implemented, but the truth is, it was, many times, and it failed resoundingly each time. As for the morality of communists vs nazis, I'll pass on both, thank you. I think history has shown both of them to be bad for people's health. I don't agree that communism has the moral high ground. Stalin alone killed two or three times as many people as Hitler did, so how can Hitler be evil and Stalin only misguided?

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They were both evil, of course....
But I seriously doubt that Communists in this country would condone such actions. Nazis would. No arguments from me about the greater killer, but I am saying that communists in this country have good intentions, at least the ones I've talked to, and show no homicidal intentions...

And we know where good intentions lead, right?

I personally think that the Communists are just more dishonest with themselves. They want the totalitarian result, but they put it in terms of freedom.
But it sounds like we both agree that these are not policies we want for ourselves.

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yeah. I don't support either system at all, but Communism is not necessarily at its core ethically corrupt, while Nazism is. Just saying that.

I agree with you that communism is a dangerous and impractical ideology, but it still very distinct from Nazism.

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Sure they're different. I don't dispute that. Otherwise they'd have the same name. But the results are the same. Both kill people. Some people say they are at extreme ends of the spectrum, with Nazism being a far right ideology, and communism being a far left ideology. Since the left-right dichotomy is not a very useful model, I say they are both totalitarian, and leave it at that.

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The results are not the same. Fascism advocates a viable economic policy, whereas communism does not. That's the reason that communist states totally collapse and fascist states just change systems of government.

The four quadrant model is the best for understanding Communism and Fascism. There is a link in my signature the hlep you figure that out. Communsim rests at the top left of the chart, whereas fascism rests at the top, mid-right.

Also, there is a distinction between Nazism and fascism. Nazism is a specifically racially-fuelled subsect of fascism, and in my opinion considerably more dangerous. In my experience, most Nazis are stupid, violent, and crazy, whereas most non-Nazi fascists are polite, well-read, and peaceful, although seriously misguided.

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http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/.../anderson.html
"Everything for the state, nothing outside the state, nothing above the state." So Benito Mussolini trumpeted the ideal of fascism, the wild–eyed political movement that he rode to power in Italy in 1922 and that died with Adolf Hitler’s defeat in 1945.

That is Mussolini, advocating slavery. Do you seriously contend that slavery is a "viable economic policy"?

I have been using the four quadrant model since 1980, and am quite familiar with it. My scores on that same test you quote in your signature are
econ 6.4 and social -5.4.
But I disagree with the Political Compass version. I feel the original version is a more accurate representation of reality.

I am also aware of the difference between Nazism and Fascism. But the results speak for themselves. We were talking of communism and fascism, not Nazism and Fascism. I don't want any of them in my life.

As for being more polite, I may not have met any Fascists who were not Nazis. Don't know. But it really doesn't matter how polite someone is. If their intent is to dominate and control society, they are evil.

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