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Old 07-13-2005, 02:46 AM
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Nazi, is not just so as many of them thinks it to be. Its better every Nazi to understand more deeply about Real Nazi, about it’s political meaning. It’s mean to fight for its Nationalization, about to save its cultural meaning.
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Unfortunatly there actually is a political belief behind the evil thats called Nazism. Only those who are bitterly evil or very very stupid follow these beliefs.

The Nazis died in 1945............its better for everybody that they stay dead.
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Unfortunately there actually is a political belief behind the evil that's called Communism. Only those who are bitterly evil or very very stupid follow these beliefs.

The Communists died in 1991............it's better for everybody that they stay dead.
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there is a distinct difference between the ideals behind communism and nazism. Nazism is inspired by extreme nationalism and the benefits of totalitarian government (fascism), and extreme rascism added on. Communism is, while I view such people as misled, inspired by the desire to create a utopian society free of crime and killings. The problem is that there needs to be a totalitarian government for such a thing to exist on a large scale, and such governments frequently become corrupt. The USSR was not a truly communist state, China is not a truly communist state, Vietnam is not a truly communist state, North Korea is not a truly communist state, and neither is Cuba.
Human rights abuses are not a part of the communist ideal, while they have resulted from said ideal. Seems to be a pretty big moral difference.
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Lardbeetle,
you have your way of looking at it, I have mine. Communism is not something that can work, if only it were implemented properly. It is not something that was implemented poorly by China/Russia/Vietnam. In each of those cases the results were a logical result of the flaws built into the system. I keep hearing that communism was never tried in those states, but that is plain wrong. Communism was tried and shown to be an evil ideology that creates an evil state that destroys its people.
Russia killed maybe 30 million of it's own people, PRC about the same in trying to keep power. These results speak for themselves.
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The extreme left and the extreme right do have some similar aspects.

But they are also very very different.....

Thing is the west seems to think anything thats not westernised is either evil, or flawed or dead. Just another example of the arrogance of the Amercans and their group of buddies.

I don't know how you can put a figure on the number of people killed in either China or the USSR.......no official or reliable figures have ever been published. I doubt 30 million is a very good figure, id say its more like 2-3 or 5 (million) at the very most (thats just an educated guess tho).
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Thing is the west seems to think anything thats not westernised is either evil, or flawed or dead. Just another example of the arrogance of the Amercans and their group of buddies.
Straw dog argument. "The west" includes a few too many people to justify such a blanket statement.

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I don't know how you can put a figure on the number of people killed in either China or the USSR.......no official or reliable figures have ever been published. I doubt 30 million is a very good figure, id say its more like 2-3 or 5 (million) at the very most (thats just an educated guess tho).
There is more of a consensus on the larger number than the smaller. Consensus is not reality, I know, but in this case, i'd say the larger number is correct.

I like the "no official figures have been published" statement. Of course not, what govt is going to admit they killed 20 million of their own citizens.
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Lardbeetle,
you have your way of looking at it, I have mine. Communism is not something that can work, if only it were implemented properly. It is not something that was implemented poorly by China/Russia/Vietnam. In each of those cases the results were a logical result of the flaws built into the system. I keep hearing that communism was never tried in those states, but that is plain wrong. Communism was tried and shown to be an evil ideology that creates an evil state that destroys its people.
Russia killed maybe 30 million of it's own people, PRC about the same in trying to keep power. These results speak for themselves.
I was stating the intentional moral difference between Communists and Nazis. I have never heard a Communist supporting the actions of Mao or Stalin or the others, but all nazis support the actions of Hitler. Seems to me they have the moral high ground.
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