Who will be Secretary of State?

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  1. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    Well, well, will wonders never cease? It seems that Romney and Gingrich discovered John Bolton although not for vice president. See this thread about Bolton:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/elections-campaigns/216664-b-b-bachmann-bolton.html

    My problem with Romney and Gingrich is that if either one gets the conservative votes needed to get elected they can name any secretary of state after they win the election. It comes down to trust. I don’t trust either of them; especially when there is no price to pay later on for cabinet appointees. Think Hussein if you doubt me. In any election reported by an unbiased media he would pay a steep price for appointing Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder.

    Naming a possible secretary of state this far in advance of the nominating convention, and election, usually does not generate much chit-chat among the pundits. However, there is a bit of spice added to this one.

    The talk about Biden swapping jobs with Hillary Clinton is growing. If there is any truth to the speculation it would put Biden in direct competition with John Bolton. No two men could be further apart. I would be a lot happier if Romney and Gingrich were as far apart from Hussein as Bolton is from Biden.

    Biden is an International community stooge who has been betraying this country since the Vietnam War, while Mr. Bolton always puts America’s interests ahead of anything else. Remember this: Then-Senators Biden and Dodd were responsible for Bolton not being confirmed as United States Ambassador to the United Nations. Bush the Younger sent him there as a recess appointment from August 2005 to December 2006.

    Incidentally, Susan Rice, is Hussein’s United States Ambassador to the United Nations. Add her to the list of Hussein’s disasters right below Clinton and Holder. She was confirmed by unanimous consent which pretty much tells you about Republican Senators and the United Nations. Democrats Biden and Dodd stopped John Bolton because of his well-known antagonism towards the UN, but Republicans en masse could not stop Susan Rice.

    Finally, I do not think a presidential election was ever influenced by possible secretaries of state. This one might be different. The media let Biden off Scot-free when he was Hussein’s running mate. He won’t be able to hide his decades of UN-loving treason when he is compared to John Bolton.


    Romney: ‘I think John Bolton is right’
    Published: 10:17 AM 12/30/2011
    By Jeff Poor - The Daily Caller

    On Hugh Hewitt’s radio show on Thursday night, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney cited a 2008 book by former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton, saying that it demonstrated his rebuke of a philosophy that is plaguing the Department of State — a mentality that stresses the importance of agreement over the importance of results. (RELATED: Newt Gingrich: John Bolton will be my secretary of state)

    “I had the interesting experience of reading his book, ‘Surrender is Not an Option,’” Romney said, “and in it he describes in some depth the mentality of people who spend their entire life in government, and that is in many cases they’re more inclined towards getting an agreement than actually getting the results. And as someone from the private sector, I’m a results-oriented guy.”

    Romney said he wasn’t prepared to name a member of his cabinet at that time, but added that he would never say ‘never’ on the possibility.

    “John Bolton insists on good results for America and is someone I respect,” Romney said. “I think he’s a fine man with great capacity. I’m not planning right now on naming my cabinet early, but you never say ‘never’ in this business. But I think John Bolton is right — we need to have a dramatic shake-up in the approach that is taken by our State Department.”

    Listen:

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/30/romney-i-think-john-bolton-is-right/
     
  2. raymondo

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    Whoever it is --- and who frigging cares ? --- he won't have much to do as America falls over the cliff .
     
  3. Flanders

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    Newt hinting that he might choose Sarah Palin as his running mate is understandable coming from a drowning man. Still, it’s an intriguing possibility if Hussein does replace Biden with Hillary Clinton.

    Even with Clinton’s media advantage going for her, Sarah would cream her in a match up. Hillary has a rap sheet that goes all the way back to Arkansas, while personal attacks is the best Hussein & Company can throw at Sarah. Combine Clinton’s score card with Hussein’s across-the-board failures and the Democrat party is facing the mother of all wipe outs.


    Gingrich sees Sarah Palin as vice president, Cabinet secretary
    By Justin Sink - 12/30/11 02:26 PM ET

    Newt Gingrich said that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin would be among the candidates that he would consider when considering a potential running mate, adding that the former GOP vice presidential nominee would be an ideal candidate for secretary of Energy.

    Gingrich, speaking Wednesday during a conference call with conservative voters hosted by Ralph Reed's Faith and Freedom Coalition, was asked by one of the attendees whether he would consider Palin as a running mate.

    "She is certainly one of the people you would look at. I am a great admirer of hers and she was a remarkable reform governor of Alaska, she’s somebody who I think brings a great deal to the possibility of helping in government and that would be one of the possibilities," Gingrich said, according to Right Wing Watch.

    He went on to suggest that Palin might be ideal for a position in his Cabinet.

    "There are also some very important Cabinet positions that she could fill very, very well," Gingrich said. "I can’t imagine anybody who would do a better job of driving us to an energy solution than Gov. Palin, for example. Tell her that she would certainly be on the list of one of the people we would consider."

    Palin had toyed for months with running for the presidency before ultimately announcing late this summer to stay out of the GOP race.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-would-consider-palin-as-vp-cabinet-secretary
     
  4. Clint Torres

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    Once the Electoral College elects MITT

    And once they make the USA fear iran

    And once the defense and construction corporations have their contract signed.

    They will have a very likeable obediant person of limited intelligence, with stronger loyalty to the defense industry than the Country of the USA.

    There are a lot of idiots to choose from.

    Iraq all over again.
     
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    Don't know who she is , but I am sold .:sun:
     
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    Those media owners like that dude Henery Kisssmenger. I understand he still alive. He will be able to get the USA to blow up Iran faster than any politician.
     
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    Bolton is a joke... a war-mongering, uncooperative joke.
     
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    I think it is Patty from Millionaire Matchmaker or Monica Lewinski.
     
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    To Doctor: Who would you like him to cooperate with?
     
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    I think it will be Flo of the car insurnce comercials. She would be good in selling insurance and giving out discouts for US corporate access.
     
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    Europe. Or just the world in general. Europe has more at stake with Iran, let's listen to what they say. South Korea and Japan have more at stake with North Korea, let's work with them.

    It's easy for Bolton to ignite DPRK or Iran, they can't hit America. Nations at risk are more worried!
     
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    To Doctor: Screw Socialist Europe. The first and only job of America’s secretary of state is to protect America and its sovereignty. Let those countries who can’t protect themselves worry about cooperating with the US not the other way around. America has had a long run of secretaries of state who were International community suck-ups and look where that has landed us.
     
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    And what happened? When has that been responsible for America being attacked? Never.

    What stake does America have with Iran? None. The US is 'worried' about Israel and Europe. So why don't we listen to them? What stake does the US have with North Korea? They can't reach the US in all reality. So why don't we listen to Japan and South Korea?

    It's idiotic not to. Bolton is just a moron.
     
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    To Doctor: Secretary of State John Bolton would signify a major change for the better in the way America conducts its foreign policy —— not to mention a secretary who sees the United Nations for what it is and will treat it accordingly.

    Put Biden in there and America’s sovereignty goes out the door —— not to mention a secretary who will suck up to the UNIC (United Nations/International Community) more than any secretary that came before him. One of my favorite nicknames for then-Senator Biden was Joe “International Community” Biden. Whenever he appeared on the talk shows throughout the Bush years Biden could not construct a sentence without including the phrase “International community.”
     
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    Foreign policy? You mean war-mongering? America should trade with all nations, nothing more and nothing less. Make money and get out.

    Sovereignty? obviously you're unaware of how the process goes and what Congress and the President have to do first. Interesting. Constitutional conservatives must despise you.

    The international community is important, trade is as well. Free-markets!
     
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    To Doctor: I prefer open markets on a level playing field.
     
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    Your post is just foolery.

    Simple concept. Iran and North Korea, as examples, cannot be counted for self-defense as they cannot harm America. Simple as that. I could careless what they do as long as it doesn't harm America, if it does, we have the ability to shut it down instantly.

    Open trade? Fair trade? You sound like one heck of a liberal. I despise liberals like you. Telling people how the market should be run, telling people in other countries how their markets should be run. Let markets be markets. Let nations be nations.

    Also, you're a Bliderberg conspiracy theorist, so I shall waste no more time with you. Can't waste time with the paranoid and uneducated.
     
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    America has never co-operated with anybody that I have noticed .
    They simply bully others to follow their lead and then always leave a Mission Post area with the local people immeasurably the poorer .
    America is just a huge bully . They stole their passport to post second world success from the Nazis and then abused everything that they had stolen .
    They say that what goes around , comes around .
    And who now would want to be born American from choice ?
     
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    I understand Mrs. Clinton is going to step down after the election. I have no idea who Obama will appoint to replace her.
     
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    His wife is the most Savvy lady I have watched and listened to for a long time .
    What a cool and smart woman .
    Obviously she cannot replace our serious and dysfunctional HC , but Michelle has surely put the bar a lot higher for her replacement .
     

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