What Do Liberals Want

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Despite the slant that Conservatives put on the issue what a lot of us true Liberals want is not equality of outcome. What we would like to see is "Equality of Opportunity". What does thay imply?

    1) Reasonable health care for all.
    2) Decent access to housing for all.
    3) Equal opportunity for education based on ability, not wealth.
    4) A fair tax system. One that treats labor equally with capital. Equal taxation for earned income and capital gains and dividends.
    6) Elimination of tax codes that allow generational wealth transfer without taxation.
    7) A legal system that treats all equally.

    Feel free to add to the list at will and debate with facts not feelings
     
  2. Leffe

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    To make rich people poor
    To make everyone have the same income
    To destroy America
    To enslave white people
    Tot destroy America
    Not to have to work for money
    An Obama-phone
    To destroy America
    To get free stuff
    To destroy America
    To remove any form of defence America has


    It all sounds so insane when it's listed out.... ;)
     
  3. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    for data and facts check out.

    Census.gov
    Epi.org
    Cob.gov
    The Gini coefficient.

    Facts are not elusive.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    To be separated from right wingers and Fox? (just a guess).
     
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    What I want is a basic standard. In other words, if ANYONE is working 40 hours a week, at any productive job, then they should at least make enough money to cover the basic things that are needed to live. I am talking about food/shelter/clothing/healthcare.

    Those that are in better jobs, such as doctors and such, should still and can still make much more than ditch diggers. However, those ditch diggers still need to be able to live.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Republicans don't define ditch diggers as worth anything though. Therefore, the ditch digger needs to make a miniscule amount, work three times as hard as say, your average 16 year old burger flipper, and hope the CEO of the ditch diggers club throws you a bone.

    Champagne and yachting has to be supported by somebody after all.
     
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    I would love to have the really Blue States, secede from the Red Hillbilly, snakehandlin', flag wavin', cross burnin', retard states, so we woudn't be stopped from straightening things out by the 25% know as ********** Nation.

    - - - Updated - - -

    And not only that, the need to have money stay in the country to create jobs HERE, is more important than sending it out so the DOW goes higher.
     
  8. Archie Goodwin

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    For Conservatives to stop breeding!!!!

    (call it a clean up the gene pool pact)
     
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    What you just described was true socialism; certainly nothing of a surprise to we Conservative Capitalists who are polar opposites of that failed ideology.
     
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    you better get a new dictionary
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Bigger penises?
     
  12. Unifier

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    I actually don't disagree with this in theory, but how do you plan to do this? That's always been the problem. I think my side does have it wrong when we try to claim health care is a luxury. Come on, that's bull(*)(*)(*)(*). We all know that. Health care is about as much of a luxury as food, water, and shelter. But that doesn't necessarily make universal healthcare a workable solution either. I'll be honest here. I don't really have a solution to this one. I recognize the problem, but I don't think either side really has any workable answer to it.

    Well, what do you mean by this? Define access and define housing. As far as I know, no one in this country is really cut off from finding a place to live. Unless you define access as taxpayer subsidized. Which I don't support. And by housing, I'm going to go ahead and assume you simply mean a place to live. Not specifically a house. Because nobody is entitled to that.


    Again, you might have to be more specific about this one for me to really get what you mean here.


    Other people have already discussed this one before on here. They've explained why this isn't a great idea. Capital gains are a roll of the dice. There needs to be incentive there to invest.

    Why? What logical purpose is there to tax someone for simply handing down his own wealth to his family?


    And we already have that. As good as it's ever going to get anyway.
     
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    But then you'll just be left with a nation of wimpy touchy feely bleeding hearts. Do you really want that, Arch?

    "Ow, don't say that! That hurts my feelings!"

    "Stop being greedy and insensitive! It's not my fault work is too hard."

    "The proper term is 'Metro-Americans.'"

    The whole place will look like California. :(
     
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    Yes!!!
     
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    The Republic of Texas would take your country's lunch money everyday. 8)
     
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    They can have it, if the retarded rightie spawn being eliminated lowers demand for Texas' school book printing industry, who sure are a creative bunch when it comes to history. LOL
     
  17. Unifier

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    And by "retarded," you mean bigger, stronger, and armed. 8)
     
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    Yes; big and dumb are synonymous. Ergo, big lummox, etc. And the arms are no prob, since they can no more reach around their girth to grab the gun than they can bend over to tie their own shoes. Meanwhile, we have plenty of time for a clean getaway, which of course would be as easy as climbing a flight of stairs in our namby pamby Northface tech-wear. If the slip-ons don't come off when trying to come after us, cracking their oversized heads, surely 3 or 4 steps, going up, will send them into heart failure.

    It's all good. The gene pool just had a banner day, not to mention space just opened up at lazy acres mobile home park and coin-op laundry.
     
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    Lol! If big and dumb are synonymous, so too then are weak and arrogant. For it is overcompensation that makes the small and timid so condescending. If they actually believed in their own worth, they would not be threatened by the big dogs. Read your post, bro. Even in your own comeback, you're still running away in retreat. Holy inferiority complex, Batman! :D
     
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    Name a tall / fat genius. Any come to mind?
     
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    I just want an end to all the forced outrage.
     
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    Keep dreaming.
     
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    Liberals want to replace God with the all powerful state.
     
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    That was the FF, which were Liberals of the day (Whigs). So yeah; we Libbies are to blame. Sorry about that.
     
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    Liberalism.

    Replacing "God's law" with reason since 1650.

    May the circle, be unbroken. By, and by Lord by and by.
     

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