“If white Americans were to leave the country tomorrow, in ten years America would be a ghetto.”


“If white Americans were to leave the country tomorrow, in ten years America would be a ghetto.”

So says Rev. Jesse Peterson, author of SCAM: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America. How true is it? Read this story in the Washington Times about the state of schools in D.C. and the fierce resistance to change by black “leaders” in D.C. government, Congress and the teachers union.

Fenty is right about one thing: There is no real progress in shifting those on top. The solution is to allow parents to leave the school system if they choose, but he doesn’t agree with that either! The Washington Post published a piece I wrote on school vouchers in D.C. back in February, “What’s so liberal about keeping children in dreadful schools?”


How can you, in 2003, blame racism on every ill in the black community? It’s obviously ridiculous. The advantage I have over white conservative columnists is that I cannot be called a racist. More importantly I am not afraid of offending black people, “my” people (not all whites have this fear, of course). After all, the truth is often offensive.

Black liberals don’t want to hear that they’re the source of most of their own problems. It’s human nature to deflect blame from ourselves, a survival mechanism, so to speak. That’s understandable. But in order to be decent and dignified human beings, we must rise above our nature, even if it’s painful.
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If you click on the initial link, it will take you to LaShawn's homepage where the referenced articles are linked. Interesting commentary, I thought.

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JW Frogen, my new favorite noob poster:

If you are such a weak jellyfish you can be bullied on a forum where you can ignore any poster you do not want to read than I suggest you move to Tibet, convert to Buddhism, protest the Chinese occupation, be killed as you will by the Chinese and hope you come back with some form of backbone.

Jesse Jackson hasn't been relevant in 20 yrs. Most minority leaders are puppets that want money and come during law suits, like a song i once heard Why do you we need black and hispanic leaders, cuz white don't have anyone leading them. I'm tired of latinos and blks playing the race card, all i say is why do you need the validation of one race in America, just work hard and get ahead. It ain't easy for us but if we keep ourself down they those racist have won.


to the race card

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In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is the king
- Nas

I agree. Most black leaders past and present (Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, MLK Jnr aside), have not actually represented the best interrests of the black population but then again neither have the majority of white leaders.

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It's the difference between suicide and slow capitulation... - Jim Morrison

The author hits the nail as far as grassroots people-based movements being the true path to getting somewhere. People put way too much stock in leaders, regardless of race, religion, or class. It's not unlike cults. The only thing that makes me cringe is when the author talks about converting people. This illustrates the problem with "knowing" what the truth is. But it is to be noted that there are some social phenomena that keep some people down. That means it will take cooperation from many people to fix the problems. But not leaders. They have proven ineffective at solving any problems. And the race card is invalid now, as no part of the system embraces racist policies and racism is declining (aside from backlashers). Most "racist" troubles stem from class issues and the legacy of racial history. They should be confronted on those grounds. And the fight, as said before, belongs to people not leaders. To what extent I agree or disagree with the author is unclear, even to me. But I do agree with something here.

The race card should not be used but that does not mean racism does not exist. Though businesses are no longer racist people in businesses sometimes are. I discourage the use of the race card and so do almost all minorities however, although there is a greater chance of achieving it now, racism can still prevent people from becoming successful.

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It's the difference between suicide and slow capitulation... - Jim Morrison

If all White Americans were to leave America, this country would decent rapidly into chaos and tribal warfare, like any other racially mixed piece of land. Nowhere in the history of civilizations have blacks been able to create a functional, lasting government, system of technological advancement or any real hallmark of an advancing civilization.

The quote can also be looked at in this light; If white Americans were to suddenly disappear from this country and all of the contributions of white people were to vanish as well, their would be almost nothing. The things, the inventions, the creations, the devices that white people have used to evaluate and manipulate external things for our own benefit are everywhere! The ideas of architecture, building materials, electronics, computers, roads, vehicles, flight, electricity, are critical to the success and survival of America.

Now, look at it from the other side; If black Americans were to suddenly disappear from this country and all of their contributions were to vanish, where would we be? I'm looking around my room and not seeing too many things that were contributed, so I don't think that we'd be that bad off. If all of the person/property crimes commited by blacks in the US were removed from the books, we'd have less per-capita crime than Canada.

Thats a basic overview of my stance on race. The white race has done more to advance civilization than the non-white races, probably all of them combined. I'm not advocating genocide, I'm not saying that I "hate" black people, or Mexicans, I'm simply saying that I want every group to be able to exist independently of each other and with their own kind. If America were an all-White nation, I don't think that their would be any problems at all. The blacks would be able to be repatriated, at our cost even, back to Africa so that they could live with their brethren over there, the Mexicans would head back down across the Rio Grande and other immigrants would be deported. This way, each race/nation could exist as they saw fit. Obviously, cultural differences prevent us from existing as a multiracial/multicultural nation. Lets admit that and do what we need to do.

...I wonder how long it will take me to chase you away.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu
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Want some more?

That might have something to do with the fact that for the 400 years or so of American history, blacks were slaves for 200 years, de-facto serfs in official and unofficial apartheid for 100 years and have only had civil rights and political power for 40 years.

Again, that may have something to do with the fact that African-Americans have only had civil rights for 40 years. Slavery, oppression and apartheid leave lasting legacies.

And the white race has also done more to f**k up civilization (and other races) than any other race, probably all of them combined.

Why? Some white people commit crimes, some white people contribute nothing to society, some white people lie and cheat, some are complete idiots (you being a case in point). Why do you assume all these problems will simply disappear if only white people lived together?

If multiculturalism and diversity prevent co-operation, why have they given rise to the most powerful nation in history? People are more united by culture and therefore nationality, than they are by race. People are more untied by class than by race. If we are to begin seperating people, why should we separate people on the basis of race?

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It's the difference between suicide and slow capitulation... - Jim Morrison

Seven people in my apartment just read what you wrote: four of us are white, one is asian, one is hispanic and one is black. We range from combat vets to teachers...and the black guy is a detective in the local police force.

(In case you're wondering why we're huddled around my computer...we had a couple of minutes to kill before we went out to lunch together and the others wanted a good laugh. You gave it to us, thanks.)

We could argue with you all day about your statement, but we're hungry and you're not really worth the time. However, we could not leave without offering this thought: would America be as great as it is had only whites occupied the land from beginning to today? You seem eager to kick non-whites out now, but would it have grown, much less survived, without non-whites?

Carrabba's here we come!

p.s. One of the white females wanted to throw in two more thoughts:

1. Blacks did not ask to come here. But this is just as much their home now as it is for you.
2. No significant black inventions? Might as well throw out your refrigerator, the spark plugs in your car, your cell phone etc.

Why would you want to do that? Can't stand a fair debate?

The black slavery issue is a moot point. First of all, it was hundreds of years ago. Second of all, the concept that whites were slave owners of black slaves isn't totally correct. Their were plantations in the south that were owned by blacks that had black slaves. Micheal Hoffmans book "They were White and they were Slaves" discusses how the majority of people in Europe who were punished for petty crimes were sent to America to work as slaves. Seriously, how much longer do blacks get a free pass because of slavery? I never owned a slave and, unless I'm wrong here, not one living black slave still exists. The slaves were bought from other Africans and slavery still continues in Africa today. All of the blacks that we got from Africa were the ones who were captured by other Africans, the crminals and the lower class.
From now on you can just type "EWM". It means "Evil White Males" and it basically is the catch-all for how bad and horrible white people are and how the non-white races would be flourishing if it weren't for, well, evil white males. I'm sure that your fingers get tired constantly harping about how slavery is responsible for everything that the blacks can't do. I'm glad that you don't put any stock in the black community to improve themselves. I don't think that they are capable of it either, so we see eye-to-eye on that one. Maybe if blacks were given positive black role models, rahter than athletes and "music" figures to look up to, they'd be going to college, trying hard in school, learning to speak English and trying to assimiliate into White American culture. You should look up some of Bill Cosbys writings, he was a poor kid from the ghetto (and yes, his great x 15 grandparents were slaves too) and he did great for himself.
Ah the joys of being a white "anti-racist". Can I sum up your point as this "Whites are basically evil, and if it weren't for their atrocities, those other equal races would be doing just fine!" You could simply say "All races are equal, except for whites, who are bad people". The logic of white self-hatred.
Why would you assume that I'm a complete idiot? Anyone that is white that stands up for their kind is automatically an inbred redneck? Are you posting in the immigration forums about La Raza being a bunch of idiots? Of course not! When non-whites want to stand up and declare that they want their own country, or that they want to exterminate whites, thats a good thing. If a White man does it, it should be a felony, right? White America did FANTASTIC before forced integration, white Europe did FANTASTIC before forced integration. As you've already claimed, the reason that blacks and every other ethnic group is doing so poorly in America is because of Evil White Males and Slavery. I think that we should give them their own living space so that us dirty honkys can't oppress them. Since all whites are bad people, as you've insinuated numerous times, and since blacks are the smartest beings on the planet, they'd thrive without us dumb whities keeping them down and the White countries, why, what would we do without those great black contributions and inventions like.... ah..... well, I really can't think of any now. I'm sure that they haven't invented anything because of slavery and because of evil white folks. Yet another reason to let them have their own nation, free of white involvement, and let them do as they please.
They haven't. America is the most powerful nation on earth because it was a white nation formed in freedom. Now that we are getting more and more non-whites, now that non-white culture is being pushed on and accepted by white youth, we are drastically going down hill. Compare our ranking in the worlds education systems before integration at the barrel of a gun and compare it now. Is it because we just aren't giving blacks enough? Maybe it's that "Racist math" that us dumb honkies use. I don't know why, but the more non-whites we have, the more crime we have, the lower our education standards and the lower the income rates.

We aren't seperating on the basis of race, nature did that for us. We are simply returning things to the way that nature had them set up. Blacks had to deal with different environmental inputs in Africa than whites in northern Europe had to deal with and we each evolved to deal with those environments. Blacks adapted to primative warfare, running fast from lions and throwing spears at hippo's to get their meat. Whites had to evolve in a harsh land with freezing winters. Our physical ability wasn't enough to survive there, we had to learn how to build shelters, to farm, how to raise animals, how to store food. Our genetic skills are far different than that of non-Whites that didn't have to learn how to do that.

Just wondering...you seem quick to point at others for the things that are wrong in America, but what have you done for your country? Just curious really...have you served in the military or do you do volunteer work? Do you donate or mentor? Or are you one of those people that puts a bumper sticker on your car and claims patriotism?

Frankly, we can come up with all sorts of thoughts and accusations, but the bottom line is this: America will always be ethnically diverse. This will never be a white only country. Nothing you do or say, or anyone else who thinks like you, will change that.

So why not use that energy your expending and divert it towards making our country better?

Or you could use it to pack up and leave because we're not going to.