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Old 03-10-2007, 07:08 PM
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You're wrong about freedom of speech - it properly means anyone communicating an idea, and the acid test of it being upheld is the unpopularity or offensiveness of the ideas being expressed. If you don't like what is being expressed, don't listen or look, or arrange a boycott of the people who do it.
What makes you think the writer's of an historic National document wouldn't explicitly illustrate their point if they meant more than what was written?
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Old 03-11-2007, 06:37 PM
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You're wrong about freedom of speech - it properly means anyone communicating an idea, and the acid test of it being upheld is the unpopularity or offensiveness of the ideas being expressed. If you don't like what is being expressed, don't listen or look, or arrange a boycott of the people who do it.
What makes you think the writer's of an historic National document wouldn't explicitly illustrate their point if they meant more than what was written?
They didn't know of the future invention of TV, radio, and the net, but if they did, wouldn't they agree those are encompassed within the first amendment too? Yet they are not in the first amendment.
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:04 PM
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Good question. That's a whole different ball-game with mind-influencing machines such as those as compared to being able to speak freely to someone on the street. As practical and pragmatic as the Founders were, I think they would be frankly a little frightened about such inventions. Before that, the closest thing there was to the influence of people's thinking in this country was the Bible. What has happened is technology has shrunk the gap more and more of other cultures and foreign ideas. Mass-Media devices like these are basically the tool of Internationalism. To be honest, I don't know what they would have done because this was before the Industrial Revolution. Up until then, things didn't really change that much and rights like those made sense and were a step away from World-Supreme Monarchys at the time. I don't think the Founders thought Communication meant as much or was any real threat to the communities and the country. They certainly couldn't ever believe the actual facit of The Nation could ever be in danger. People got to remember that this was still the time when Western Culture was at its height and influence. It was completely unthinkable to the founders to invite anyone to this country but Europeans. But this didn't start right away for numerous reasons. I don't know what laws they would have made but I think their basic feelings would have been that their citizens could say anything they wanted to say but the nation must be wary of foreign influence. If you mean by language content, I don't think the people at the time would have even let them get away with that. True, people have the freedom of speech but people would have been mad at indecent material coming into their house and would have put a top to that. Personally, I don't like foul language on television. Movies are one thing and it can fit a movie but most people do not talk the way some people are characterized on TV which makes it degrading and leads some people by its influence to have looser tongue. As for the internet, as you know, the internet is a complete free-for-all and is barely governed by National Institutions.

Off topic, I think the internet is a great invention but highly overrated in its importance. It has also become a tool for Perversion which I don't really care about but also used for invading privacy. It's also not good for community, either. Example: There are actually people out there that have the agenda of completely eliminating physical retail shopping and transferring the whole marketplace to the computer. People ten years ago would have said, "How can that be?" but they're out there and they don't care how much it destroys community. Shopping itself isn't what it used to be. Shopping used to be a town affair and you knew a lot of the people when you went shopping. It's not so much like that now and they want to push that even further in the good name of 'convenience'. Well, I think being able to buy bananas from Haiti in February is convenient enough.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:30 PM
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Blacks are still looking for reparations from slavery days.....
what?
How many of them are looking?
The mainstream media is constantly talking about some black or black organization in the courts trying to get a monetary compensation because their ancestors were slaves. It's in the news all the time in the NY area.
I never said "ALL BLACKS" so don't put words in my mouth.

You might as well had, since that is what you were thinking.

The fact that ANY blacks are attempting to rob the government for such a stupid reason is blasphemy.

Why? You don't think when one has been wrong the ones that wrong him/her should pay that person retribution.

You don't see Irish or Italians doing this. Why?

Probably because they weren't slaves.

Where's the Irish Entertainment Network?

Lets see CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, Fox, should I go on.

Where is the NAAIP?

I believe it falls under the NAAWP.

gimmie a break.............

For what? You are only talking loud and saying nothing.

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The fact that ANY blacks are attempting to rob the government for such a stupid reason is blasphemy.
Why? You don't think when one has been wrong the ones that wrong him/her should pay that person retribution.
Tell ya what you do, bref - find where those slaveholders are hiding and sue 'em! Oh wait - you have no standing, I don't think you were a slave. Well, no problem - find those ex-slaves and have THEM sue the ex-slaveholders!
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Nope. I'm gonna have to disagree with ya there, superbadbrutha. It's common political knowledge that the Democrats practice the distribution of wealth. The Welfare system was actually started for the blacks in this country. Of course, that was before politicians learned to use it as political persuasion for voters. But there's no doubt the black community perpetuates higher taxation that favors poorer society, namely the blacks. This obviously doesn't sit well with the whites. What we have today in this country is really a civil war for the direction of the country. On one side you have all the minorities and on the other you have all the white christians/businessmen. As far as I'm concearned, this multicultural test has ended in nothing but a meshuggah disaster. A country divided ceases to be a country and defeats its basic purpose. Not sure how this will end but I know it will contribute to the end of America's reign.
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Rule ONE w/ the media: Whether you work in the media or not, if you get face time with any regularity, better not mention race.

Why the Media Men seem to feel threatened by the mere mention of race is a mystery to me, as if the fact of its stated existence may launch a renaissance of old male grouping patterns - perhaps an end to multiculturalism? It’s quite astonishing to watch the lengths they’ll go to quiet the “squeaky wheel”, particularly if he/ she happens to be of Anglo descent.
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Regarding the reparations-for-slavery thing....
you gotta live in a cave if you're not aware of blacks on a regular basis trying to get 'free' money out of this. - you- you would be a CAVE-MAN then.
pre-cromagnum - guess that makes me a racist then, right?

See, unlike the media who cower at their own shadows, tagging me as a racist doesn't phase me in the least. What's right is right and the rest is BS.
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Regarding the reparations-for-slavery thing....
you gotta live in a cave if you're not aware of blacks on a regular basis trying to get 'free' money out of this. - you- you would be a CAVE-MAN then.
pre-cromagnum - guess that makes me a racist then, right?

See, unlike the media who cower at their own shadows, tagging me as a racist doesn't phase me in the least. What's right is right and the rest is BS.
I got it!

Pass a law....anyone still living who actually owned a slave, back during the Civil War, must pay reparations.

Otherwise, why is this "reparations" cloud still hanging over our heads? How many decades must go by before "whitey" is absolved of what his great-great-great-great grandfather did? Do jews still demand reparations from Germany? Do the Russians? Hey, I know! Mexicans can demand reparations from Spain! It was those pesky Spaniards who killed off the Mayans anyway!
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