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Old 04-14-2006, 07:35 AM
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Why is it that conservatives here are trying to defend a stupid PC term? Discrimination has no specific direction, therefore it cannot go in a 'reverse' direction. What is hard to understand about that?
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Why is it that conservatives here are trying to defend a stupid PC term? Discrimination has no specific direction, therefore it cannot go in a 'reverse' direction. What is hard to understand about that?
But making such a difference is useful. That way we can have partisan bickering on how each form of discrimination is worse than the other, while ignoring the effects of the one we're supposed to be cheering on. Meanwhile we try to underplay the existence of the other one.
If we didn't have a term like "reverse discrimination", we'd have to (gasp) honestly discuss the entire issue of discrimination and look at the varied ways in which it exists without the use of catchy rhetoric.
That's upside-down discrimination against political hackery!
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"There's an old saying that the absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence," said Peter Neufeld, co-founder and co-director of the Innocence Project, a nonprofit legal clinic.

A doctor and forensic sexual assault nurse examined the woman and found evidence consistent with a rape having occurred, police documents show.

Nifong said Tuesday that in 75 to 80 percent of all sexual assault cases, there is no DNA evidence.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp...00631.html

Jury still out on this one guys, lets see what happens.
Wow: I think this is very important in the larger scheme of things. You said...."Nifong said Tuesday that in 75 to 80 percent of all sexual assault cases, there is no DNA evidence." Then this PROVES that all these people the DNA project is getting out of prison because they are now proving there isn't a DNA match is a huge mistake! According to Nifong, they is a very good chance they are STILL guilty.

It's time to re-examine the Innocence Project in New York, a group that seeks to free inmates through new tests. According to YOU and NIFONG, they are getting people like the man in this LINK out.....who are most likely really guilty.

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Why is it that conservatives here are trying to defend a stupid PC term? Discrimination has no specific direction, therefore it cannot go in a 'reverse' direction. What is hard to understand about that?
The better question is....why are YOU trying to attack it? If you can show me the actual LAW or Amendment that says it's a crime to discriminate against "white guys" then I'll agree with you. Show me ANY law or amendment where "white men" are listed as a protected class.

The term "reverse discrimination" is a legal term. It takes the Civil Rights laws....which don't include "white guys" and makes the case there it is "sometimes" used to discriminate against white men.
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Have you ever heard me say "reverse discrimination" or "reverse racism"?

And you won't.

The TRUTH is that I am FOR discrimination and racism. I am tired of the proposed Utopia that you lieberals think this world should be.

You want racism? Take a japanese family to Chinatown in San FranCrisco.

And I think that attitude should be within their rights. Like the yeller fellas, I think that I should not be denigrated for my feelings... and I don't feel that anyone else should either.

The year is 2006 and thought is a crime. Orwell had a typo.
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The trouble with DNA evidence, especially in rape cases, is that women often feel compelled to clean themselves off before getting checked.
That could possibly mean that guilty people are being let go due to the use of DNA testing, unless there's something I'm missing in all of this.
That's why the particulars of the cases always need to be looked at. DNA is only part of the story. All I've heard about this case is the DNA stuff without any of the other forensic evidence that I might need to make a logical deduction. I hope the jury doesn't have this problem.
Are people literally being let go on DNA tests alone? Because from what I understand, it is possible to do something bad without the DNA evidence being leftt, especially if someone gets rid of it.
Frankly I have no idea in this case. And frankly I don't really have much interest in it. And it seems the interest of most people here involves using the case for some political reason, one way or the other.
Perhaps the jury has a better idea of what's going on.
I'll defer to them... Wow. That's easy. That's how our system already works. Not flawless. But it's probably for the best.
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"The trouble with DNA evidence, especially in rape cases, is that women often feel compelled to clean themselves off before getting checked."

Do 'rape victims' who are 'passed out drunk' clean themselves in their stupor?

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/13/D8GVCKT81.html

"A woman who claims she was raped by members of Duke University's lacrosse team was described as "just passed-out drunk" by one of the first police officers to see her, according to a recording of radio traffic obtained Thursday by The Associated Press."
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If you can show me the actual LAW or Amendment that says it's a crime to discriminate against "white guys" then I'll agree with you. Show me ANY law or amendment where "white men" are listed as a protected class.
You are joking, right? There is equally no law where "black men" are listed. The laws state you cannot discriminate on the basis of "race" or "sex". White guys included.
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"The trouble with DNA evidence, especially in rape cases, is that women often feel compelled to clean themselves off before getting checked."

Do 'rape victims' who are 'passed out drunk' clean themselves in their stupor?

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/13/D8GVCKT81.html

"A woman who claims she was raped by members of Duke University's lacrosse team was described as "just passed-out drunk" by one of the first police officers to see her, according to a recording of radio traffic obtained Thursday by The Associated Press."
OK. We can shut the book on this case then.
Though what if somebody else cleaned her?
I bet her lawyers didn't think of stuff like this. Maybe I should go to law school.
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