Reverse Discrimination at Duke? - Page 2

bktx1 · #11 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 09:52 AM

There may enough evidence to gain an indictment. That is still a strong possibility, from what the publice knows here. Getting a conviction is much harder to do, and if the time stamped photos, lack of DNA evidence, etc. holds up, the prosecutor may be not get a guilty verdict.

This whole thing is just disgusting any way, and the races of those involved doesn't change that for me. The racial twist just plays up the larger issue of race and class issues in Durham.

keylolo · #12 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 09:55 AM

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It's amazing to me how certain people use DNA to get people OUT of jail and say they were wrongly accused and senteced....but not in this case. Because after all, these were white boys and these white boys HAVE to be guilty, right? There's no DNA anywhere......not inside the woman, not on her clothing, not under her fingernails, not ANYWHERE......and yet YOU and this PROSECUTOR insist they are GUILTY?

Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"

How would you like it, keylolo, if this were YOUR son being accused like this? And the DNA came back that exonnerated him....but yet, people were STILL saying he was guilty? How?

First of all, I would get in my son's behind for being at such a party to BEGIN with. If it were my son, I would be confident the courts would find him innocent of such a charge because I would have confidence he did not commit such an act. What that has to do with DNA evidence I have no idea, but Here some info on that:

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Nifong has said all along that he didn't need a match to pursue the case against the players, and experts agree.

"The truth is if you speak to crime lab directors, they will tell you that in only a relatively small number of cases is there any DNA evidence," said Peter Neufeld, co-founder and co-director of the Innocence Project, which uses DNA to free people wrongly imprisoned. "In rape cases there is an expectation of DNA, but like many expectations, often it is misplaced."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...na-tests_x.htm

Those are the facts. If they are innocent, I have confidence the court system will find them so. But lack of DNA evidence equalling reverse racism. You were EAGER to throw that card out there werent ya? LOL!!! Bit premature for that my friend.

keylolo · #13 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 10:02 AM

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Even if everything happened exactly as the stripper said, the DA is still totally wrong in the way things were handled. 46 guys have been punished for the possible actions of 3. 46 guys had their season canceled, lost their coach and been harassed for 4 weeks. When they stick up for each other, the assumption is that they are lying to protect their buddies. It's just not that easy for me to believe that all 46 would lie to protect rapists.

I don't understand the allegation that the police waited too long to search the house. They found the fingernails, the make-up bag etc. Didn't they find everything they were looking for?

46 guys are being punished for the actions of 3 because 46 were at the party when the incident occurred, drinking, when they werent suppose to, watching strippers, when they werent suppose to, and this is NOT their first offense this year, hell, its not even their 10th offense this year:

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Duke lacrosse players in trouble before
20 crimes in past year include underage drinking, public urination, noise

The March 13 off-campus party at which a woman was allegedly beaten and raped wasn't the first legal run-in for members of the Duke University men's lacrosse team, WNCN-TV reported Thursday.

WNCN-TV has uncovered court documents showing 15 members of the lacrosse team have been charged with at least 20 crimes in the past year. The charges include underage drinking, public urination, excessive noise and one instance in which a Duke student's debit card was stolen and used to purchase $100 in food.

Full story here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12080778/

This was simply the last draw in a long line of crap they were let off for. They are not innocent little school boys.

keylolo · #14 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 10:02 AM

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There may enough evidence to gain an indictment. That is still a strong possibility, from what the publice knows here. Getting a conviction is much harder to do, and if the time stamped photos, lack of DNA evidence, etc. holds up, the prosecutor may be not get a guilty verdict.

This whole thing is just disgusting any way, and the races of those involved doesn't change that for me. The racial twist just plays up the larger issue of race and class issues in Durham.

I agree.

Bombeni · #15 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 10:04 AM

I think somebody be needing a new car.

keylolo · #16 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 10:06 AM

"There's an old saying that the absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence," said Peter Neufeld, co-founder and co-director of the Innocence Project, a nonprofit legal clinic.

A doctor and forensic sexual assault nurse examined the woman and found evidence consistent with a rape having occurred, police documents show.

Nifong said Tuesday that in 75 to 80 percent of all sexual assault cases, there is no DNA evidence.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp...00631.html

Jury still out on this one guys, lets see what happens.

keylolo · #17 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 10:07 AM

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I think somebody be needing a new car.

Typical racist response. Good boy.

The12thMan · #18 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 10:10 AM

http://www.herald-sun.com/durham/4-719220.html

So far, I've found very little to back up the stripper's story and quite a bit of evidence that contradicts it.

Bombeni · #19 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 10:11 AM

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I think somebody be needing a new car.

Typical racist response. Good boy.

Gee thanks alot. I waited until the facts were in at least. No DNA. Prior Bruises. Stripper lifestyle. Rich Frat Boys. = Somebody be wanting a new car.

keylolo · #20 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 10:12 AM

And Ive posted quite a bit to the contrary. That's where our court systems and a judge comes into play.

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