They are when the evidence supports what they say. And I've not found prostitutes to be any more truthful.

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Heh!

Spamming the thread donkey-boy?

Listen here.. I could care less about your complex issues of racial guilt. I could care less about your ignorance of legal matters and public figures. I could care less about bigotry against men who join fraternities.

But do not presume to prance around in this thread like you know what you are talking about. You are a bigot just like the other whitey-haters here.

I LIVE LESS THAN AN HOUR FROM DURHAM. I HAVE ATTENDED DUKE UNIVERSITY.

I know the differences between the town-gown factions of the area. You do NOT.

I KNOW about the DA who is afraid to lose his job to a slick talking black dude.

You do not.

Did you attack Kobe bryant as vehemently as you have these athletes?

I bet you didn't.

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Do you find them LESS believeable than painted up whores who take their clothes off in front of groups of strange men?

I understand what you mean. Rape is a monkey wrench in the gears of our justice system, nearly impossible to prove or disprove, often leading to a clear advantage for disprove, as this is how our system works. But it is the most fair way to run a system. I don't know what to think, but it seems the evidence really does favor the defendents. I wonder about the possibility of another white man that could have done it and the victim only seeing a white man unclearly, getting screwed up when pointing out a person... perhaps even based on prejudices of her own... but not really dishonest. As a result, I don't think anyone can seriously be prosecuted for any reason in this case.
Rape almost always comes down to word against word, and I do tend to think that the woman is less likely lying than the man, considering that taking rape to court usually just leads to the humiliation of the woman- often enough as to act as a deterrent from bringing the case up.
But in a case where we're not sure if the woman was raped and if she was, she doesn't seem to really know by whom. I agree mostly with your assessment of fratboys, but the danger of such stereotypes is that they make us condemn the innocent with the guilty. But the scary thing about fratboys is their group loyalty and power over campuses that makes them excel at cover-ups- look at all the hazing cases. The world will be a better place when people quit joining these rotten relics and let them rust in the junkyards of history.

But all in all, I admit that I have no idea.
What I can say is that our justice system is not well-suited to prosecuting things like rape and yet it would be terrible to alter the justice system in favor of prosecution. The only way to stop rape is for us to destroy the culture that supports it, destroy the culture that keeps it secret, and to begin socially ostracizing those who take part in such behavior when we catch them, rather than continuing our current culture of blaming victims.
It's not something that can be done in our court system, so I think the best way to do it is end the secrecy that keeps it alive. And quit pretending it doesn't happen by drawing on high-profile hoax cases for our inspiration when the average rape is actually some girl you'll never hear about because she never goes to the police because she knows our court system can't handle it.

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-opening from Tales From the Darkside

"And quit pretending it doesn't happen by drawing on high-profile hoax cases for our inspiration when the average rape is actually some girl you'll never hear about because she never goes to the police because she knows our court system can't handle it."

This is the first time in American history that DNA evidence was removed from a rape suspect, tested, and people whose DNA did NOT match the sample found were indicted.

The first time.

The problem is not the justice system.. the problem is running an end around it.

It is purely racially and economically based.

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In a battle of he said/she said her character is ENTIRELY relevant to the issue. In fact not only is it relevant, it is the most relevant. In the same way that their character is relevant when they find emails or notes that indicate their thinking. There is no difference between using an email to condemn someone than there is in what their profession was.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

It's amazing what one can find on the internets about a person's character....

http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/apps...s&numtimesin=2

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sinanju observes: and in a rare instance, as it pretains to the allegations by the "victim", i have to agree (altho i still feel the strong need to bathe as a result). But with regard to the indictment, the motivation appears purely political due to the upcoming elections, in which the DA, Nifong, is running. http://www.wral.com/news/8627966/detail.html

"(altho i still feel the strong need to bathe as a result)."

Don't change your yearly schedule because of me.

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[quote="Sinanju";p="231732"]"(altho i still feel the strong need to bathe as a result)."

Don't change your yearly schedule because of me.[/quote]

Are you going to tell us she hired an illegal alien to babysit her two kids and didn't pay taxes, so she must be lying about being raped. Peace.