Thread: God Commands Racial Segregation--forbids Mongrelization

Originally Posted by SFJEFF

Seriously it is so easy to find references to Jesus as a Jew in the New Testament that I don't see how anyone but agents of the anti-Christ could try to argue Jesus wasn't a Jew

So all the Bible quotes of Jesus telling the jews they are not of HIS sheep doesn't mean a thing to you? Like I said, I just put that one quote up there so as not to burden you with several other facts and quotes proving Jesus wasn't a jew.

Matthew 2
1Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the reign of King Herod. About that time some wise mena from eastern lands arrived in Jerusalem, asking, 2“Where is the newborn king of the Jews? We saw his star as it rose,b and we have come to worship him.”

Wise mena? Those people coming from the East were astrologers asking to where the king of jews was located. So how in fact do these quack seers know that there is a king and that this king is the king of the jews and not the king of the Galileans or the king of mankind? Furthermore, do you believe King Herod would know whether Jesus was a jew or even if the messiah existed?

Luke 23
3So Pilate asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?”
Jesus replied, “You have said it.”

Nice try but it looks to me like Jesus was mocking Pilate by suggesting to him that he's going to believe whatever he likes. I don't see where Jesus confired his birth with that short sentence, do you?

[QUOTE=Libhater;1061328063]So all the Bible quotes of Jesus telling the jews they are not of HIS sheep doesn't mean a thing to you?

No it doesn't. Because I can read the Bible.


I love all the rationalizations so you can imagine a blond aryan Jesus singing Wagner who is not Jewish right out of the White Supremicist New Testament.

Jesus was a Jew......and Jesus commanded his followers to 'love your neighbor as you love yourself. Rather than your message of hate, Jesus told his followers to love their neighbors.

By David Sedaca

In order to fully understand the person of Jesus, we must realize that first and foremost Jesus was a Jew. This means that not only was he born into a Jewish family, but also that Jesus' family was part of the Jewish people, a people that had the unique characteristic of knowing its special relationship with God. Religion was an essential part of Jewish life, and religious Jewish life meant the observance of God's appointed times.

When we commonly speak of the "Jewish holidays," we are referring to the biblical holidays, which are summarized in Leviticus chapter 23. There can be little doubt that Jesus, like any other Jewish person of his time, must have kept all the biblical holidays. If He had not observed the Jewish holidays, He would have set himself apart from his community, and we know that this was not the case.

We know for sure that He attended synagogue because is recorded in the gospels. In Mark 6, it says that that when the Sabbath came He went to the synagogue and there He addressed the people. There is also the case of Jesus healing a man while He was at the synagogue.

Originally Posted by Libhater

John 10:22-36 NIV

Then came the Feast of Dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter, and Jesus was in the temple area walking in Solomon's Colonnade.

The Jews gathered around him, saying, "How long will you keep us in suspense? IF YOU ARE THE CHRIST, TELL US PLAINLY."

Jesus answered, "I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father's name speak for me, but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE."

Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from my Father. For which of these do you stone me?"
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One of the things I have learned from these boards is that certain posters have a tendency to carefully edit quotes for their own agenda. This is what you have done. Let's see what the entire quotation says- and lets look at what you specifically edited out.



22 Then came the Festival of Dedication[a] at Jerusalem. It was winter, 23 and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade. 24 The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.”
25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[b]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

You carefully editted out the sentence which noted that Jesus was speaking to the Jews who were present...and you actually changed the words from the NIV from "Jewish opponents" to "Jews".

There can only be one reason why you so carefully try to deceive us.

Originally Posted by SFJEFF

One of the things I have learned from these boards is that certain posters have a tendency to carefully edit quotes for their own agenda. This is what you have done. Let's see what the entire quotation says- and lets look at what you specifically edited out.



22 Then came the Festival of Dedication[a] at Jerusalem. It was winter, 23 and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade. 24 The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.”
25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[b]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

You carefully editted out the sentence which noted that Jesus was speaking to the Jews who were present...and you actually changed the words from the NIV from "Jewish opponents" to "Jews".

There can only be one reason why you so carefully try to deceive us.

I have no idea what you're talking about or why you twist the story here. I didn't change anything. If the passage had said 'jewish opponents' as you claim, then wouldn't that make my claim that Jesus was infuriated with those jews all that more plausible or believable? The fact remains that you cannot come to grips with Jesus telling that gang of jews that they are not of his sheep. Let me break the meaning of that down into infidel layman's terms for you. Those jews were never a part of Jesus's flock or people.

http://niv.scripturetext.com/john/10.htm

Originally Posted by Libhater

The fact remains that you cannot come to grips with Jesus telling that gang of jews that they are not of his sheep. Let me break the meaning of that down into infidel layman's terms for you. Those jews were never a part of Jesus's flock or people.
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You cannot come to grips with the fact that Jesus was a Jew who was bringing the "New Testament" to his people. There were many Jews who rejected Jesus- and there were Jews who embraced him- most if not all of his original disciples were Jewish.

Luke 2
16They hurried to the village and found Mary and Joseph. And there was the baby, lying in the manger. 17After seeing him, the shepherds told everyone what had happened and what the angel had said to them about this child. 18All who heard the shepherds’ story were astonished, 19but Mary kept all these things in her heart and thought about them often. 20The shepherds went back to their flocks, glorifying and praising God for all they had heard and seen. It was just as the angel had told them.

Jesus Is Presented in the Temple

21Eight days later, when the baby was circumcised, he was named Jesus, the name given him by the angel even before he was conceived.

22Then it was time for their purification offering, as required by the law of Moses after the birth of a child; so his parents took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord. 23The law of the Lord says, “If a woman’s first child is a boy, he must be dedicated to the Lord.”a 24So they offered the sacrifice required in the law of the Lord—“either a pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons.”b

Yeah....he was circumcised as requried by the Old Testament, and his parents offered a purification offering as required by the law of Moses....

Yet you still envision him as a blond aryan singing wagner while carrying the cross.

Originally Posted by Libhater

"So shall we be separated, I and all Thy people that are upon the face of the earth." Exodus 33:16

"I am the Lord thy God, which have separated you from other people." Leviticus 20:24

The reason for God's warning is clear. Mongrelization is the worst form of "GENOCIDE". If you kill 99% of a race, but leave the other 1% pure blooded, they will in time restore the race. But, when you mongrelize them, you have destroyed that race eternally. Once mixed with the Black or Yellow Races, the White Race would be totally and forever destroyed. Hence, God has forbidden it.

ps: Perhaps the mongrelization of the White Race is part and parcel to the reason why we don't celebrate a WHITE History month, or a WHITE history year, or our WHITE history, period. Food for thought.

http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/comparet/comp8.html

It refers to being God's people, not a particular race. Those people God was speaking to at that time were not white, they were of middle eastern origin.

I don't think it would be possible for me to care less about Leviticus. I'm a white guy who happens to think white chicks are deadly boring.

Originally Posted by SFJEFF

21Eight days later, when the baby was circumcised, he was named Jesus, the name given him by the angel even before he was conceived.

There are several characters named "Jesus" in the Old Testament. One was even a king of the Jews.

1 Maccabees 2:55 (DRA) = Jesus, whilst he fulfilled the word, was made ruler in Israel.

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Originally Posted by Libhater

Jesus was a Jew......and Jesus commanded his followers to 'love your neighbor as you love yourself. Rather than your message of hate, Jesus told his followers to love their neighbors.

The neighbors of the Jews were other Jews. What makes you think otherwise?

Originally Posted by Sean Michael

It refers to being God's people, not a particular race. Those people God was speaking to at that time were not white, they were of middle eastern origin.

Jews and Arabs are whites.