Thread: USA, how freedom can go with forced integration? Civic report on segregation.

Originally Posted by Libhater

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I don't know you and your question is too broad for me to answer in any contrete manner. However, concerning race, I would suggest that you subscribe to the Conservative ideology of being self sufficient with a drive to better yourself without the aid of an over burdensome centralized government. Once you do that, then I suggest you spread that message of good will throughout the black community. So long as blacks continue to follow the loser ideologies, messages and policies of the democrap party--your goose will forever be cooked. For me, everything we do in life is linked to politics, and if you subscribe to a losing message, i.e. liberalism/socialism, you'll never be free and you'll never be self sufficient and or successful in life.

Okay then. I'll give you a better idea of who I am. I've lived my life as somewhat of a "misfit". I've been the nerdy kid. I've been derided by some Black kids(a few White kids too) for "acting White". I've also dealt with racial harassment. I've pretty much had trouble from alot of people. What I want is to live in an environment where I am safe, where I don't have to worry about getting derided for "acting White". I can vote, go to school wherever I want, and do things that would have been off limits to my grandparents. I don't want to lose any of that. For my own personal life, I have to think about what helps ME.

And something else too. Bill Cosby did speak out against some Black children not applying themselves and how there is alot of work that needs to be done. People like me listened to what he had to say and agreed with him. However, the Black people who derided him and equated him to an Uncle Tom do so because that would have done so anyway. Bill Cosby is just one man. I am just one man. I can tell the people who are acting like idiots to "shape up or ship out". I could tell them that. The question is, will those persons listen. In fact, I've actually done that before. I've actually spoken to a few students myself(when I actually was in high school) about their behavior. They just laughed and said "this is just how we are". I can tell people stuff. It's a question of listening and changing one's mentality.

Originally Posted by saturn

Okay then. I'll give you a better idea of who I am. I've lived my life as somewhat of a "misfit". I've been the nerdy kid. I've been derided by some Black kids(a few White kids too) for "acting White". I've also dealt with racial harassment. I've pretty much had trouble from alot of people. What I want is to live in an environment where I am safe, where I don't have to worry about getting derided for "acting White". I can vote, go to school wherever I want, and do things that would have been off limits to my grandparents. I don't want to lose any of that. For my own personal life, I have to think about what helps ME.

And something else too. Bill Cosby did speak out against some Black children not applying themselves and how there is alot of work that needs to be done. People like me listened to what he had to say and agreed with him. However, the Black people who derided him and equated him to an Uncle Tom do so because that would have done so anyway. Bill Cosby is just one man. I am just one man. I can tell the people who are acting like idiots to "shape up or ship out". I could tell them that. The question is, will those persons listen. In fact, I've actually done that before. I've actually spoken to a few students myself(when I actually was in high school) about their behavior. They just laughed and said "this is just how we are". I can tell people stuff. It's a question of listening and changing one's mentality.

You make a lot of good and pertinent points. If you as a black man are having trouble convincing your peers that there is a better or more productive way to progress as a people, imagine the problems someone WHITE like myself would have in trying to light a fire under the arses of these same black people. I can assure you that they're calling me much worse names than the Uncle Tom they may call you, whereas they may not even listen to me since in their eyes I'm already a racist who couldn't possibly have their best interest at heart. A vicious circle we seem to be stalemated in here.

Originally Posted by Libhater

You make a lot of good and pertinent points. If you as a black man are having trouble convincing your peers that there is a better or more productive way to progress as a people, imagine the problems someone WHITE like myself would have in trying to light a fire under the arses of these same black people. I can assure you that they're calling me much worse names than the Uncle Tom they may call you, whereas they may not even listen to me since in their eyes I'm already a racist who couldn't possibly have their best interest at heart. A vicious circle we seem to be stalemated in here.

I could imagine. It boils down to distrust. There are Black people who feel that Whites could never want anything good for Black people. It is distrust. It is important to know where this distrust comes from.

As for Bill Cosby's comments, I felt like much of the heat Bill Cosby took was due more to embarrassment. Blacks might have agreed, but didn't want Cosby to "air Black America's dirty laundry for everyone to see". As for the Black people who compared him to Uncle Tom, they would have done that to any other Black people who said something similar.

I look at my life like this: I am not a criminal. I don't act like a criminal. I do not engage in criminal behavior. I would consider myself a decent, law-abiding citizen. Why should I be lumped in with people who are criminals who just happen to share the same skin color/race with me? I have nothing to do with gangs, drugs dealers and the other bad stuff. Why should I be associated with it if I have nothing to do with it? The only thing I get out of it is a low quality of life.

When I see posts like this online, I often think some people would actually try to implement what is being suggested on these forums.

What I want is to not have to worry all the time.

Why it's called "discrimination" and not "freedom"?

So you are saying that forced segregation is "freedom"?

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Mr Truth, they've drunk their own fascist kool-aid and think that tyranny is freedom. To them, they are the victim.

Originally Posted by Mr_Truth

So you are saying that forced segregation is "freedom"?

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

What those of us in the experienced know are telling you is that a peaceful/common sense weaning from an integrated/multi culturalized society into a segregated one is the answer for every race.

What those of us in the experienced know are telling you is that a peaceful/common sense weaning from an integrated/multi culturalized society into a segregated one is the answer for every race.

That's what the antichrist Hitler said as well.

However, the Bible tells us there is neither Greek nor Jew for all are equal before God. As we are a "Christian" nation we are all bound by this Truth.

Originally Posted by martin_777

As being Russian, I person...

Move back to Russia. Plenty of white people there. I hear it's lovely.

Originally Posted by Mr_Truth

That's what the antichrist Hitler said as well.

However, the Bible tells us there is neither Greek nor Jew for all are equal before God. As we are a "Christian" nation we are all bound by this Truth.

The bible also tells us that GOD believed in the segregation of the peoples. Upon request I'll give you those many bible quotes of segregating the people. I've done it before here, so such a request is not that difficult a chore for me.

Originally Posted by Mr_Truth

That's what the antichrist Hitler said as well.

However, the Bible tells us there is neither Greek nor Jew for all are equal before God. As we are a "Christian" nation we are all bound by this Truth.

THANK YOU!!! This is how I see the whole race issue.