Thread: Two Arrested in Murders of Two UCLA Chinese Exchange Students-No Photos

Police has arrested two men in connection with the murders of two UCLA exchange students from China in California


LOS ANGELES (AP) — The police have arrested two young men in the shooting deaths of two University of Southern California graduate students from China, an attack that shocked a campus that has more international students than any other American university.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/us...rom-china.html


Odd thing...WHY NO PHOTOS OF THE SUSPECTS? They both have prior arrest records, so photod ALREADY EXIST in the system.

Now I find that forensics have linked these two to to other attempted murders....and STILL NO PHOTOS?


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...152147955.html

One thing fore sure, IMO; that surely means that the suspects ARE NOT WHITE MALES, or we'd have their
photos, church attendance, old girlfriends, bosses and reported penis sizes by now...unless they were KNOWN Democratic Party donors, that is...


AM I too cynical, or has the Dinosaur Meda really lost ALL CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER?

Originally Posted by Grokmaster

Police has arrested two men in connection with the murders of two UCLA exchange students from China in California


LOS ANGELES (AP) — The police have arrested two young men in the shooting deaths of two University of Southern California graduate students from China, an attack that shocked a campus that has more international students than any other American university.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/us...rom-china.html


Odd thing...WHY NO PHOTOS OF THE SUSPECTS? They both have prior arrest records, so photod ALREADY EXIST in the system.

Now I find that forensics have linked these two to to other attempted murders....and STILL NO PHOTOS?


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...152147955.html

One thing fore sure, IMO; that surely means that the suspects ARE NOT WHITE MALES, or we'd have their
photos, church attendance, old girlfriends, bosses and reported penis sizes by now...unless they were KNOWN Democratic Party donors, that is...


AM I too cynical, or has the Dinosaur Meda really lost ALL CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER?

tsk tsk. The PC crowd here isn't going to like this.

Prepare for the onslaught of "RACIST!!!!" name calling. You should also be prepared for this thread to be buried in the Race Relations forum since the victims weren't black. That appears to be the new PF policy.

Originally Posted by Grokmaster

Police has arrested two men in connection with the murders of two UCLA exchange students from China in California


LOS ANGELES (AP) — The police have arrested two young men in the shooting deaths of two University of Southern California graduate students from China, an attack that shocked a campus that has more international students than any other American university.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/us...rom-china.html


Odd thing...WHY NO PHOTOS OF THE SUSPECTS? They both have prior arrest records, so photod ALREADY EXIST in the system.

Now I find that forensics have linked these two to to other attempted murders....and STILL NO PHOTOS?


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...152147955.html

One thing fore sure, IMO; that surely means that the suspects ARE NOT WHITE MALES, or we'd have their
photos, church attendance, old girlfriends, bosses and reported penis sizes by now...unless they were KNOWN Democratic Party donors, that is...


AM I too cynical, or has the Dinosaur Meda really lost ALL CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER?

You really think the media didn't post a picture because of the race of the murders?

No Photos?

Then they are definitely not Amish.

The squawkmeister's crowing from his dunghill again. Nothing to see here.

Originally Posted by jcarlilesiu

You really think the media didn't post a picture because of the race of the murders?

I hope to hell not, but I am seriously beginning to wonder about it...? If these students were killed by a known "Tea Party" supporter, do you think that we wouldn't ALL know his face by now?

Originally Posted by Colonel K

The squawkmeister's crowing from his dunghill again. Nothing to see here.

Yaaawwwwnnnn...another "driveby dribble" from the Chicken Man...

2 are held in slayings of USC grad students

Signals from one victim's cellphone and shell casings led to the suspected gunman, police sources say.


Shell casings and signals from one of the victim's cellphones led police to arrest two men in the slayings of two USC graduate students from China — a botched robbery that focused a harsh global spotlight on the campus that is a magnet for foreigners.

At a news conference Friday evening, Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck identified the suspects as Bryan Barnes, 20, of Los Angeles and Javier Bolden, 19.

Barnes was taken into custody Friday afternoon by a team of LAPD SWAT officers, along with FBI and other federal agents, who raided an apartment near the USC campus.

Bolden was arrested three hours later in Victorville and flown by helicopter to an LAPD station on 77th Street by the same arrest team.

Beck offered few details about the arrests. But police sources, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the ongoing investigation, said Barnes was the suspected gunman in the April 11 slaying of electronic engineering students Ming Qu and Ying Wu, both 23.

Bolden was believed to have been present when the students were gunned down during a suspected robbery while sitting in Qu's parked BMW in the 2700 block of Raymond Avenue, the sources said.

The suspects were being held without bail and were expected to be booked on suspicion of murder late Friday. They are scheduled to be arraigned Tuesday.

Beck said the suspects did not have extensive criminal records but were believed to have been involved in two earlier attempted murders.

"Early on, forensic evidence made us suspect quite strongly that this was a part of a series of crimes committed by the same men," the chief said.

Ballistics tests on shell casings recovered at the scene of the shooting show they were fired from the same gun used in two other shootings, police sources said.

The sources said Barnes took a cellphone from one of the victims and detectives were able to locate him by tracking signals sent by the device.

Authorities also identified a signal from a second cellphone in proximity to the victim's phone, they said.

The second phone was identified as belonging to the suspect.

One police source described the case against Barnes and Bolden as "very, very strong."

Detectives working on the two previous shootings had followed some "very tenuous" leads that they believed tied the earlier incidents to the primary suspect in the USC case, a police source said.

Beck and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa praised detectives for their work.

Villaraigoisa portrayed the arrests as a sign of how seriously the city takes public safety and sought to reassure an international audience, in Spanish and English, that Los Angeles is not a dangerous destination.

"Safety is priority No. 1 in this city," he said. "Students at our city's universities should feel safe in and around our campuses."

The mayor, the father of a college-age daughter, said his heart went out to the Chinese students' parents.

The arrests came days after the parents of the slain students filed a wrongful death lawsuit against USC, saying the school misled them when it claimed that it ranks among the safest in the nation.

On Friday afternoon, one woman who witnessed Barnes' arrest from her front lawn said that at first, she thought she was watching the taping of a television police drama.

"It was quiet, calm," said the woman, who declined to give her name. "We thought at first they were a crew filming 'Southland.'"

She said dozens of detectives, plainclothes officers and SWAT team members descended on the 1200 block of 91st Street. Children played kickball in the street, and an ice cream truck cruised by.

Arresting officers swooped into a bright blue, two-story house in the middle of the block; the house is divided into five apartments.

They emerged soon after with a man in handcuffs, she said.

The woman, who said she has lived on the block for years, said she did not recognize the man, who had a medium build and appeared to be in his early 20s.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,6899632.story


Violent criminals have become an international embarrassment. I don't know how many people remember that criminals in Florida were targeting foreign tourists, because they knew they were unarmed, and killing them. The vehicle rental companies had to remove their logos and special licence plates to keep foreigners alive in Florida. It's time to end violent crime with draconian punishments. NO more kid gloves.

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2 arrested in killings of USC graduate students, LA police say

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/18...#ixzz1vP14mOVw


LOS ANGELES – Los Angeles police said Friday that they arrested two suspects in the killings of two Chinese graduate students who were shot to death near the University of Southern California campus last month.
LAPD Detective Gus Villanueva announced the arrests and had no further details pending a news conference scheduled for 7:30 p.m. PDT.
Ming Qu, of Jilin, and Ying Wu, of Hunan, were shot on April 11 while sitting in a BMW about a mile away from the campus. Both students were 23 years old.
The shooting sent shockwaves through the school, which has the largest number of international students of any U.S. university. Roughly 19 percent of the school's 38,000 students are from overseas, including 2,500 from China.
After the shooting, Wu was found in the passenger seat and Qu on the steps of a nearby house where he collapsed while trying to summon help, police said.
The campus is located in an urban center a few miles south of downtown. It is across the street from county museums and not far from the Staples Center arena and a gentrifying area of Victorian homes. Yet it also was known as an area that had faced high crime and gang activity.

The victims' parents filed a lawsuit on Wednesday alleging the school made false claims about safety in the "frequently asked questions" section of its online application.
The 15-page lawsuit accuses USC of hiding behind the word "urban" and not saying the school is in a high-crime residential area. It also notes that Chinese students in particular would interpret urban to mean USC is in a safe area.
"The `urban' representation misled Chinese students, including Ming Qu, into believing the area is safe since in China, the more urban the area, the safer the area," the lawsuit states, claiming USC understood this is how Chinese students would interpret the description.

USC lawyer Debra Wong Yang said the university was deeply saddened by the deaths but found the lawsuit to be baseless.
The school and city police announced new security measures after the slayings and promised more video cameras, escorts and patrols.
The additional security will include sending over 30 more officers to the department division that handles the USC area, and the university will pay for four additional officers to patrol the student residential neighborhoods, Police Chief Charlie Beck said.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/18...#ixzz1vP1AhOzK

Originally Posted by DonGlock26

Violent criminals have become an international embarrassment. I don't know how many people remember that criminals in Florida were targeting foreign tourists, because they knew they were unarmed, and killing them. The vehicle rental companies had to remove their logos and special licence plates to keep foreigners alive in Florida. It's time to end violent crime with draconian punishments. NO more kid gloves.

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I remember this one quite well:

Two British friends shot dead on a crime-ridden American housing estate were ambushed and murdered, possibly as part of a gang initiation.
James Cooper, 25, and James Kouzaris, 24, were in Florida when they were killed at 3am in a gangland area rarely visited by tourists.

They apparently accepted a lift from someone they met in a bar, thinking they were being driven home.

A 16 year-old, named locally as Shawn Tyson (left), was charged with their murder. It emerged yesterday that he was freed by a judge last week despite being arrested over an armed robbery.

The bodies of Mr Cooper, a tennis coach who once played Andy Murray, and Mr Kouzaris were found riddled with bullets on a one-way street in the estate, known for drug dealing and gang activity. Police are investigating the theory that the pair spent the night bar hopping in Sarasota.

Officers suspect they believed they were being driven the 12 miles to the resort of Longboat Key.

Instead, they were taken to Newtown, Sarasota, where they were confronted by a gang of masked men.

Police sources said both men were running away when they were shot. Their bodies were found 50ft apart. They still had money on them and police found no evidence to suggest they had been wanting to buy drugs.

Sarasota police chief Mikel Hollaway said detectives had their suspicions but it would be unfair to state them. He said he believed the victims were there of their own volition.

Captain Paul Sutton said police were looking at the possibility of more arrests. He said: “More than one person ran when shots were fired.”

A police source said the two friends did not have their own transport, “so they were brought to this location”. He said: “Someone could have called ahead and people were waiting for them.” Sonja Seymour, 31, of Newtown, said: “I heard that when they arrived here there were already some people waiting for them. They were wearing masks. The men ran away and they were shot. I saw one of them lying in the street on his back.”

Police said the 16-year-old boy, charged with double murder, was believed to live with his mother in the housing estate.

He had been charged with aggravated assault after shots were fired in an attempted robbery two weeks ago.

However, he was released while police carried out further inquiries.

Police said he would now be charged as an adult which could lead to the death penalty.

The pair met at Sheffield University and became firm friends. Mr Cooper, who graduated in economics and business management, had gone to stay with his parents, Stan and Sandra, at Longboat Key in a £300 a week apartment.

Mr Kouzaris, a keen runner, cyclist and rugby player, had spent several months travelling around South America.

Mr Walton said his grandson was excited about the holiday. “The boys went out in Florida on Friday evening as young men do — but they didn’t come back. As it was late his mother rang his mobile and got no answer. She carried on ringing. Eventually a policeman answered it.

“They came to get Sandra and his dad and took them down to the police station, and only then did they tell them that the boys had been shot and killed. Sandra is shattered, as are we.”

Gina Cross, 31, of Florida, said she was hoping to see Mr Cooper the day he died. She first met the pair when they visited Florida in April 2009. They met for drinks last Thursday night and were to see each other on Saturday. She said: “They were so excited to come here. James said to me: 'I’m so looking forward to seeing you.’ Then all of a sudden, one moment in time can change everything.

“I’m heartbroken, I’ve spent all week telling my friends what a great guy James is. It was the start of something special.”

James Roe, head coach at Kenilworth Tennis, Squash and Croquet Club, where Mr Cooper, an only child, had been a member most of his life, said: “He was an excellent tennis player as a teenager and became my doubles partner.

“He was an outstanding coach. There wasn’t much work over Easter so he took some time off.”

Mr Cooper, a season ticket holder at Coventry City, lived with his parents in a gated barn conversion in Hampton Lucy, near Warwick.

Mr Kouzaris also lived with his parents, Hazel, and Peter, both 52, in Northampton. He has a sister, Emily, 20. They described him as a “wonderful son”.

His aunt, Carole Kouzaris, of Syston, Leics, said: “It’s absolutely horrific.

“James was a lovely lad, popular, good-looking and adventurous.”

Both cases are equally tragic due to the pointless absurdity of such crime. To add injury to insult, in both cases it's easy to imagine that the victims were more beneficial to society than the perpetrators (which is often the case).