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Old 03-31-2008, 08:39 AM
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Really? Cuz the fact that they have the highest unemployment and poverty rate in America begs to differ.
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Old 03-31-2008, 01:48 PM
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Really? Cuz the fact that they have the highest unemployment and poverty rate in America begs to differ. How can we expect them to trust a system that only in the last 40 years has embraced them?
They have the highest unemployment rate because their community as a whole is broken. Now whether you want to claim it was the fault of slavery or not is your decision (quite frankly slavery and lack of rights played into it), but it doesn't explain why people who come here from other countries which heavily values education and family are succeeding quite well in this country.

The African American culture does not seem to value education nor does it seem to value families. If it did you would not seen anywhere near the rate of single mothers that is prevalent in their culture. On average they also have an IQ one standard deviation below that of other races. So what we have is a group of people that have about a 50/50 chance to even have a father figure, and are raised by people who are likely to have a poor education. The end result is many children who only know how to blame other people for their problems, and even adults that claim it is the government's fault.

The main issue here is that instead of taking opportunities that are widely available for black people, you have at the very least a part of the black community that rejects the key to success that this country is founded on because it is associated with white people. If you don't believe that, then just listed to Rev. "I'm still living in the 60's" Wright. If you took your child to those ridiculous sermons they would probably grow up with an absolute hatred toward anything that could be associated as "white" values.

If the rest of the black community that still lives in poverty does not want to drop the feelings of resentment and hopelessness, then you can be guaranteed they will continue to provide absolutely nothing for themselves or their community. As a result, this sadly means heavily draining the community through government aid or crime.

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I think Black people want a fair break and they deserve it. Are they getting it through programs like Affirmative Action? How would I know. I do however agree with the one black preacher whose youtube I posted on here. To paraphrase - "how can any black man stand up and say they are happy with Affirmative Action? Its nothing but a continuation of Jim Crow laws".
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I agree, but in the last 20 years or so I'd say there have been many opportunities.
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Through the public school system, blacks have just as much an opportunity for an education as whites.

Do you really believe that public schools in black communities are as good as the public schools in the average white community? Everything I've ever seen suggests that public schools in poor or urban communities tend to be dramatically inferior to those in middle-class or better neighborhoods, and this would, of course, disproportionately affect black neighborhoods.
I live in small town, we have two middle schools. My kid went to the so called black middle school in 7th grade where he took pre algrebra. We had to move him in 8th grade because he could not take algrebra at his current school. So if he stayed at the so called black school he would be a credit down and would not have advance math class. however he should not of had to move schools each school should have offered the same oppurtunity.
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Look, liberals are REALLY lost on this issue. Blacks don't want equality. They already get BETTER treatment than equality. What they want is revenge, against people that did no blacks any harm in most cases. No one in my family had anything to do with slavery or Jim Crowe for instance. In fact my parents marched against Jim Crowe. But, blacks demand hiring preferences over me because of my skin color, reparations from me for someone's else's actions, and then have the nerve to demand that I really, really like all black people- otherwise they will call me racist. Well, guess what, they always talk about wanting special treatment because some people don't like them, poor things while they hate us openly. Well, I don't like them demanding special treatment and spewing hatred about me because of my skin color. So, it is THEIR racism that makes me not like black culture. Further, the things they want revenge for weren't even done to them! In short, they have become what they fought against- racists.

Mainstream black culture is extremely racist, scapegoating anyone with white skin as the source of their problems while they have most of their children out of wedlock, worship thugs, preach misogyny and racial hatred, glamorize drug abuse, glorify violence for its own sake, and make a mockery of public education. They also believe they are superior to whites and do not value anything that is "white." Many blacks are all too happy to say so. The reality is that blacks simply want power and couching it in nonsense like wanting equality is very dangerous because it is encouraging their cultural decline into decadence and encouraging their racism. It has nothing to do with their skin color and everything to do with their rotten, evil culture.
What i want is for victims like this to stand up and be a man. Maybe when that black man got the job he was just better than you. I honestly laugh at some of these post. My oldest son has a 3.5 in cp courses and will enroll and take college courses the next three years of high school. No kids tease him or call him uncle tom.
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Right, the system has only made many of them apathetic and dependent. That's why many are so impoverished and jobless. Meanwhile foreigners are working and feeding their families within our borders.

The system has given even more disadvantages to impoverished blacks in the last 40 years by becoming their daddy of socialism. Meanwhile others are getting doing better on their own. But hey, vote democrat because "republicans are racists".
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My oldest son has a 3.5 in cp courses and will enroll and take college courses the next three years of high school. No kids tease him or call him uncle tom.
Sounds great. You and he should be proud.
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Sounds great. You and he should be proud.
Thanks and I am
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