Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine

Poverty is not the issue. Blacks have more money now, far more, than during the civil rights movement. Yet victory has resulted in a deterioration of black culture not a flowering of it. People of all races and cultures are poor. But, if you look at the Jewish or Asian culture, cultures that embrace education and intellectualism, you see there is PLENTY of opportunity to overcome poverty if one wants and works to do so, not even considering all the advantages handed to blacks by stealing from others. Their birthrate out of wedlock has soared since the civil rights movement, their rates of teenage pregnancy has soared, their murder rate against each other and everyone else has soared, their glamorization of misogyny, racial hatred, violence, drugs, thugs, and acceptance of complete immorality have all flourished since they gained equal rights, all despite their increased economic power.

No, it is not poverty that has caused the complete rotting away of black culture but THEIR rejection of intellectualism and the American Dream as being "white" and "selling out."

Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine

their glamorization of misogyny, racial hatred, violence, drugs, thugs, and acceptance of complete immorality have all flourished since they gained equal rights, all despite their increased economic power.

No, it is not poverty that has caused the complete rotting away of black culture but THEIR rejection of intellectualism and the American Dream as being "white" and "selling out."

Originally Posted by Skeptikos Examiner

Life long free handouts and reparations for the unequal treatment by nature! They don't want a plain playing field because on a plain playing field they could not compete.

Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine

Look, liberals are REALLY lost on this issue. Blacks don't want equality. They already get BETTER treatment than equality. What they want is revenge, against people that did no blacks any harm in most cases. No one in my family had anything to do with slavery or Jim Crowe for instance. In fact my parents marched against Jim Crowe. But, blacks demand hiring preferences over me because of my skin color, reparations from me for someone's else's actions, and then have the nerve to demand that I really, really like all black people- otherwise they will call me racist. Well, guess what, they always talk about wanting special treatment because some people don't like them, poor things while they hate us openly. Well, I don't like them demanding special treatment and spewing hatred about me because of my skin color. So, it is THEIR racism that makes me not like black culture. Further, the things they want revenge for weren't even done to them! In short, they have become what they fought against- racists.

Mainstream black culture is extremely racist, scapegoating anyone with white skin as the source of their problems while they have most of their children out of wedlock, worship thugs, preach misogyny and racial hatred, glamorize drug abuse, glorify violence for its own sake, and make a mockery of public education. They also believe they are superior to whites and do not value anything that is "white." Many blacks are all too happy to say so. The reality is that blacks simply want power and couching it in nonsense like wanting equality is very dangerous because it is encouraging their cultural decline into decadence and encouraging their racism. It has nothing to do with their skin color and everything to do with their rotten, evil culture.

Originally Posted by frodly

Ok well here is something that will make you happy! Since 1981 500 million chinese have come out of poverty!

Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine

This just isn't accurate. Black kids are mostly bussed out of their communities into white schools, to the detriment of everyone. And, the primary obstacle to IS cultural, its the black culture's rejection of anything they see as "white values" like education, obeying the law, speaking the English language properly, being financially responsible, etc. Any blacks that dare exhibit these traits and others will be called Uncle Tom. I have taught in predominantly black schools. The majority will not stand for the pledge of allegiance, they reject any correction of slang, reject anything educational, brutalize and terrorize any student that actually tries to learn, create as much as distraction as possible to be the center of attention and point out the special treatment they are demanding and receiving, using profanity, singing disgusting rap music in class, abusing the girls sexually (so common you aren't allowed to write a referral for it unless the girl agrees to press charges), etc.

If you reject goodness, don't then call it discrimination that you can't achieve the American dream. You have to WANT the American dream and work for it in order to attain it. The problem with black poverty is black culture which embraces nothing of intellect anymore. A few "Uncle Toms" are trying to turn the tide but are having no success. This is not what MLK and the civil rights movement was about and they would not be proud to see what blacks have done with the freedom they have gained.

Originally Posted by BillyBob

Free crack?

I bet it would reduce the crime and murder rate dramatically. Of course, if blacks usually kill each other, that might not be such a good thing. It's sorta their way of 'culling the herd'.....

Originally Posted by bostonjc

The correct answer is actually free marijuana.

Originally Posted by frodly

Of course it is damaging! I don't think many intelligent people, would argue that the current trends in black culture regarding music, aren't damaging! These people glorify things, which shouldn't be glorified! They glorify gang life! But the reason these kids are taken in by this, is because they see no other way out!

I have an easy question for all the racists here(and yes saying black people need to stop smoking crack and get jobs makes you a racist)! Do you think being born into poverty makes it more likely that you will live your life out in poverty?

I think that is the important question! When I see parts of poor black culture, I see a group of people trapped in a situation they have no idea how to get out of! You make it seem that they want the government to take care of them, and live their life poor! If you actually believe that there is no dialogue to be had! Many inner city poor people see only a few ways out! Drugs, athletics, and rap are for many the only realistic way they see of escaping the terrible situations they are born into! So they idolize rappers, because they see someone from their situation who made it out, and they want that!