We've had threads debating about how far we've come since King's "dream" speech. We've had threads debating Rev. Wright's racist views/teachings.

This got me thinking...

a) What exactly is it that black folks aren't getting?
b) How exactly is it the fault of white folks?
c) What exactly do black folks want, that they don't have already?

Is it reparations from slavery?
Who is to pay whom, and why? None of MY ancestors were in America before 1900, so I feel I don't owe blacks anything. Furthermore, how many black folks can prove that their ancestors were slaves? Finally, is "throwing money at the problem" going to solve anything? So what, if a bunch of blacks get a check? Is that going to make everything "all better?" Is it supposed to "teach Whitey a lesson?"

Is it job equality?
At every place of employment I've ever been to, I've worked alongside blacks. As a middle-class white person, I can't find racial job inequality. In my experience, blacks have always had just as much opportunity as whites. Find me one college-graduated black who can't find a job. One.

Is it inequality in schools?
Through the public school system, blacks have just as much an opportunity for an education as whites. Here in my city, enrollment is high in black neighborhoods (keeping them in schools...that's a different story).

Is it "victimization" from "Whitey?"
How exactly is "Whitey keeping blacks down?" If anything, "Whitey" is bending over backwards for black folks. This includes everything from affirmative action, to entitlement programs.

Discuss.
However, I'm looking for examples and specifics. None of this "you oughta know" or "ain't it clear already" garbage. If it's a big enough deal, then it should be easy to provide some clear, and concise examples.

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The school part is the only one i can comment on and I know i'm 100% correct, black kids have much better opportunities for education than I, as a white teen does

they have more scholarship opportunities, they have automatically score higher on the SAT's

its actually now a joke at schools when we take the SAT's... to get a good grade all u have to do is fill in "African-American" and you get a 1500 automatically... personally I got a 2200 on the SAT's, so im not upset about this at all, a good number of blacks are in bad schools that need to be fixed, im fortunate enough to have had a very well rounded education... good elementary school in Cali, a junior high school in Dubai (for 1 year) a private school for 3 years, and a public school for 2 years

so there is inequality in the schools i've gone to, i usually get the short end of the stick, but in areas like Compton, the kids there aren't even in reach of a stick, and if they get one its broken by their environment

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Is it reparations from slavery?
Ridiculous. People who don't even remember which of their family members were enslaved should not have to receive additional benefits from people who aren't necessarily descended from slave owners. The whole idea is just plain illogical.

Is it job equality?
Can't say this is it either - opportunities are out there, they just have not taken advantage of them.

Is it inequality in schools?
Same as above.

Is it "victimization" from "Whitey?"
This isn't happening anymore either... list is getting short.

One thing they might be looking for is a release from ignorance. A lot of the black communities have black people that are trying to be successful, but are held down by other blacks. I don't exactly understand how this happens, but I have to put at least partial blame on the parents - they are the ones that should be raising their children, not the "streets."

Another thing that should be addressed is gang-related activity. I think this may be one of the largest deterrents to forward progress and the prisons are not helping by acting as recruitment centers and "schools" where gang members go to learn about their gang and how to operate within one.

Probably other things I can think of, but it's getting late - I'll add more later if I can think of any.

What the hell are you talking about. Judging from what you're saying, you don't really understand the SATs or how any other standardized test is scored. Take a statistics course and try again.

i took a stat course, A'd it... i was saying a joke, learn how to read

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well it was a bad joke

its better in person

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What do they want? To put the blame on someone else for their own failings. It's amazing, given all the opportunites, that black Americans can't get their act together, when even blacks immigrating from other countries far out pace them within a short time of being here.

Life long free handouts and reparations for the unequal treatment by nature! They don't want a plain playing field because on a plain playing field they could not compete.

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Did you not read this part:
She actually wants to have a discourse on the subject, not a unilateral flame war.