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My point is that a marriage certificate is a contract with the Government.

If someone does not trust the Government, then they won't want to engage in such a contract.

If a Black person distrusts the police, the criminal justice system, the court system, the economic forces of banks, corporations, poor public schools, taxes, etc. they will be less inclined to trust the government in their personal relationships and have control over marriage, divorce, and their finances.

There are many divorced men who vow to never get married again, from what I've heard.

The incentives to get married are no longer there. There are more incentives to remain Free from a government-sanctioned and enforced partnership.
The problem with your argument tho is common-law marriages. Each state has different laws on it, and some require assets to be split when the marriage dissolves. So, depending on where you live, it may not really matter if you avoid a legal marriage.
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I think most people get divorced for financial reasons and the guy doesn't not want to lose half his savings. Perhaps to encourage more marriages, they should make divorces easier and less financially destructive.

Whites also have a better understanding of the court system and access to lawyers. I think Blacks distrust government and do not want any part of govt if they had a choice in the matter.

Whites also have a stronger foundation in religion and view marriage as a stepping-stone to financial and personal success. There is a strong understanding that the offspring will have a strong chance at success.

Maybe the key to marriage and families is a greater emphasis on preparing children to succeed financially. I know many parents who hate each other but stay together for the sake of their children. Its a tough and painful pill to swallow that many people don't want.
The problem with this is marriage and divorce is not about you agaisnt the government. It's about you against your wife. Thus the fact that white people may have better access to lawyers is irrelivant, unless you believe the wife of a black man will have an advantage over the wife of a white man.
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Your justifications for the difference is absurd. The simple fact is that many black people are poor, and instead of playing it safe they have kids. The man in the relationship either doesn't feel like paying or doesn't want to adjust their lifestyle to pay for it, so they leave. I don't see what the great mystery is here.

"Whites also have a stronger foundation in religion and view marriage as a stepping-stone to financial and personal success. There is a strong understanding that the offspring will have a strong chance at success."

I think this accounts for the difference quite well. In the black culture they think it is hopeless, or they just don't care. I think that is part of the reason why the wealth gap is still as large as it is at the moment.

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I believe that there is a major fear of divorce. Every guy I've come into contact with that has recently gone through a divorce has major problems with credit etc... Marriage is a good thing but many probably fear the financial burdens and problems if the marriage does not last.
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I believe that there is a major fear of divorce. Every guy I've come into contact with that has recently gone through a divorce has major problems with credit etc... Marriage is a good thing but many probably fear the financial burdens and problems if the marriage does not last.
But is that a black and white issue? (no pun intended)
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