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Uh, noooo, what I’m saying is, politics in general is all about image/photo ops, smiling, shaking hands, kissing babies, etc…

It would not be beneficial for anyone in public office to admit to something they have a hold on and can not be proven otherwise, since public trust could/would be effected. Truth and even facts are sometimes irrelevant when one considers the overall scheme of things, and the big picture in general!
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we did not "invent" syphilis either we tested it, not unlike the nazis, on an ostracized race.
so, if anything i would be able to fanthom that HIV testing could have similarly occurred with black subjects.
but while i personally do not believe that happened, i can see the potential. even more, i can see an African American contemporary of the Tuckegee subjects, who has ministered to black folks oppressed during the jim crow era, willing to believe that the United States is capable of such heinous behavior ... what is past is prelude
You realize that the doctors just observed the effects of syphilis on black people.. They did not infect the black people and they did similar studies on whites
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You realize that the doctors just observed the effects of syphilis on black people.. They did not infect the black people and they did similar studies on whites
You realize they offered them no treatment, and used them basically as lab rats?
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You realize they offered them no treatment, and used them basically as lab rats?
Yes, but bubba was implying that the tugekee study infected blacks with syphilis, which they did not. They only observed the effects. the black patients could have easily gotten treated. the doctors did not prevent treatment from being gotten from doctors
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Is Aids an attempt to exterminate Blacks
If it is, it's not working very well.
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Yes, but bubba was implying that the tugekee study infected blacks with syphilis, which they did not. They only observed the effects. the black patients could have easily gotten treated. the doctors did not prevent treatment from being gotten from doctors
Granted on that point, but they thought they were being treated. Most were never even told exactly what they had!

http://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm



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Researchers told the men they were being treated for "bad blood," a local term used to describe several ailments, including syphilis, anemia, and fatigue. In truth, they did not receive the proper treatment needed to cure their illness. In exchange for taking part in the study, the men received free medical exams, free meals, and burial insurance. Although originally projected to last 6 months, the study actually went on for 40 years.
Lab rats!
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Granted on that point, but they thought they were being treated. Most were never even told exactly what they had!

http://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm





Lab rats!
I'm just glad I don't know much people like you. Which these bogus psycho theories.

But that's the US government for you. Infecting blacks with diseases. I don't totally agree with the US government, but that doesn't mean I go bunk and claim this stuff.
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I'm just glad I don't know much people like you. Which these bogus psycho theories.

But that's the US government for you. Infecting blacks with diseases. I don't totally agree with the US government, but that doesn't mean I go bunk and claim this stuff.
I claimed nothing the government hasn't already admitted too! They did not infect them, but they knew what they had and they didn't treat them and "used" them for study! Like I said, lab rats!

Please attack the right person next time if you don't mind!
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let's look at this from the perspective of an elder black person who ministered to those who had to endure the indignities inflicted on our African-American population during the jim crow era:

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/.../jul/tuskegee/

anyone see where any white folks were included in that experiment, where humans were subjected to life threatening disease and left untreated? anyone recall how the nazis would single out the Jews to suffer "medical" experiments to see how much cold they could tolerate before they died?

now, let's look again at the question which the OP raised:

probably not. but can we be sure, based on what has happened before? answer that question as a person of color would whose contemporaries died because of the withholding of medicine during a medical "experiment"


Okay, you've got me confused. Are you saying the Tuskegee Syphilis Study was an attempt to exterminate blacks? If so, I think it was way too narrow in scope. If not, how does it apply to the question posed?

Or maybe you are asking if it is possible that there are experiments being conducted on only blacks to see what the effects of untreated HIV/AIDS are? I think it is pretty evident at this point that if left untreated, it causes death.

On the actual subject of the thread, I don't think AIDS is an attempt to exterminate blacks. Maybe if it didn't affect all other races or if there was a cure that worked on all races except blacks, but even then it may not be the case. Who would be doing the exterminating anyway, God?
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AIDs is not a man-made creation and I do not believe that it is being used to target blacks or homosexuals.

Crack is definitely something that was created by man and used as a means to destroy the black community.
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