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Old 05-14-2008, 10:33 PM
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Blacks, especially the leaders who profit from racism like Jesse Jackson, Reverend Wright and others stand to lose their entire platform if Obama wins the Presidency. They will no longer be able to claim to be victims of white oppression. They will no longer be able to claim they do not have the same opportunities as all Americans. They will no longer be able to preach their racist, anti-American hatred from the pulpit and will instead be left with nothing else to preach to their congregation but Scriptures. That isn't going to fill the pews.....or the offering plates.....


That explains why so many blacks are trashing Obama including his own pastor.
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Rev. Wright are not racists. look up the word - oh forget it I'll give you the definition: "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. Name one time that any of these great men have spoken about superiority or the right to rule over others. they have not - that thought process is left to the privileged class.

Obama winning the presidency will not stop the cops from harassing the well-educated men in my family. It will not stop the teacher from calling my son "it". Nor will it stop my racist boss from telling me that I cannot get promoted - even though my reviews are glowing and I have the right education.

Madame CJ Walker was a black female millionaire in the early part of this century - so by your logic MLK marched for no good reason at all - after all since there already existed a black millionaire racism couldn't exist.
Give me a break - this whole thread is seriously lacking in depth or critical analysis.
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Not all societies do, some don't know how, and some have to worry too much about their kids, their family, and their health to take the risks needed to rise above.

Speaking from second hand experience, a friend of mine, black woman so I'm still kinda on the same topic, wants to quit her minimum wage job to complete her massage therapy training and find a lucrative job as a massage therapist. She's been trying to do this because she has a kid, a husband and herself to think of. She will lose her medical coverage, and her son suffers medical problems so she can't lose her insurance by quitting her job... pre-existing conditions you know.

Now you could say, well if she just worked hard enough she could do it. Perhaps, but come on... we can do better than this. We don't have to make people climb mt everest to get ahead. A little support for her and her son and she would be well on her way to a job where she could really afford to take care of her family instead of scraping by trying to take care of the medical bills for her son. Would you say this is one of your examples of society "encouraging" her? Or is this society not giving a crap about her and her family. the sad thing is it goes both ways... if she did have a better job, she would be paying more in tax and contributing more to society. Her husband could afford to quit his job and look for another one and contribte more himself. And of course their son would have a better shot than both of them. Instead, in the name of "if you really wanted to, with a bit of effort you could", both her family and society itself are worse off because of this particular situation.

I was fortunate to come from a well off family and have had all the luxuries of life I could have ever wanted... but getting to know some of my old friends, I have an idea how it can be on the other side of the block. There are certainly people who take advanage of the system, and we should take action to correct this... but sometimes society is better off working togather.
The thing is, there is always a correct kind of effort. Society encourages her goal, but she has to do the research and make the right decisions. Also, because any system is imperfect, I am sure there are budget cuts she could make to ensure that her son wouldn't have to suffer without health coverage.
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sad but true, Obama will mean yes there is racism, but if you have ideals you can stand for them, but even Obam's election will not lift people out of the ghetto, the only thing is work, but then even that might not be enough for many whites, blacks have to over prove their abilities in general.
No, they do not. What they have to realize is they are expected to do the job they were hired for. What they have to do is realize that their employer is in business to make money. He cares about performance, not skin color. If you think I am just making a racist rant then give a listen to what Bill Cosby and Chris Rock have had to say.
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Blacks, especially the leaders who profit from racism like Jesse Jackson, Reverend Wright and others stand to lose their entire platform if Obama wins the Presidency. They will no longer be able to claim to be victims of white oppression. They will no longer be able to claim they do not have the same opportunities as all Americans. They will no longer be able to preach their racist, anti-American hatred from the pulpit and will instead be left with nothing else to preach to their congregation but Scriptures. That isn't going to fill the pews.....or the offering plates.....


That explains why so many blacks are trashing Obama including his own pastor.
...or maybe, it's because he's not representing the black community, very well at all? He hasn't made any promise to improve the conditions of housing commisions (home to most blacks), or to crack down on tar heroin or crack cocaine, wich the current administration seems to ignore, since it only effects blacks who are sectioned off in their own parts of the city. The media seems to make it look like it's the way you're saying it, that they want to keep being able to cry discrimination at every turn, that's why they don't show anyone who uses facts to pay out Obama, they only show people saying they dislike him.

When someone like this, speaks the truth abot Obama, the media trys to paint them as racists. ffs. Obama will be another do nothing, underexperienced, fake socialist, conservative idiot, and McCain will most likely increas national debt, like most other republicans have done. You cannot vote for him, just because he's black.

Obama is basicly trying to keep the current system, in wich many blacks (and poor people, alike) get screwed in the butt by the people in power, but making himself look like he's for the interest of minorities and the working class. When he says things like "the rich will pay more taxes than you" or "no more tar, no more crack" he is entitled to the black and the working class vote.
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