Political Forum
     

Go Back   Political Forum > Political Issues > Civil Rights > Race Relations


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-26-2008, 07:24 PM
SuperDinoYoshi's Avatar
SuperDinoYoshi SuperDinoYoshi is offline
Sr. Correspondent
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 749
usa us florida
SuperDinoYoshi is just really niceSuperDinoYoshi is just really niceSuperDinoYoshi is just really niceSuperDinoYoshi is just really nice
Credits: 5,859
Send a message via AIM to SuperDinoYoshi
Default Bill Nye the Science Guy says Race has no scientific evidence behind it


Here's an old (but relevant) video where Bill Nye talks about race. He presents a compelling argument that there really is no such thing as race, and mentions how scientific academies have been suggesting to governments to get rid of the term.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Red Cross - Donate Today    Save the Rainforest
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-26-2008, 07:49 PM
onalandline's Avatar
onalandline onalandline is offline
Sr. Correspondent
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 412
usa
onalandline has a spectacular aura aboutonalandline has a spectacular aura about
Credits: 1,807
Default

Interesting subject. I guess we're all part of the same race, The Human Race. I wonder how they account for different bone and eye structures?
__________________
Support Our Troops!
In God We Trust
McCain / Palin
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-26-2008, 07:52 PM
SpankyTheWhale's Avatar
SpankyTheWhale SpankyTheWhale is online now
Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: right behind you
Age: 2
Posts: 7,727
SpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 26,639
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDinoYoshi View Post
YouTube - The Eyes of Nye - Race (Part 1 of 3)

Here's an old (but relevant) video where Bill Nye talks about race. He presents a compelling argument that there really is no such thing as race, and mentions how scientific academies have been suggesting to governments to get rid of the term.
I remember my ninth grade teacher going through a list of how much Bill Nye got his science either wrong or outdated. It was kind of an intro to how high school science, "real" science was done.

I like the satirical old style "Mr. Wizard" show.
__________________
You don't have to pretend to like someone just because you are voting for him.

Last edited by SpankyTheWhale; 06-26-2008 at 07:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-27-2008, 09:11 AM
SuperDinoYoshi's Avatar
SuperDinoYoshi SuperDinoYoshi is offline
Sr. Correspondent
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 749
usa us florida
SuperDinoYoshi is just really niceSuperDinoYoshi is just really niceSuperDinoYoshi is just really niceSuperDinoYoshi is just really nice
Credits: 5,859
Send a message via AIM to SuperDinoYoshi
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by onalandline View Post
Interesting subject. I guess we're all part of the same race, The Human Race. I wonder how they account for different bone and eye structures?
In the video he attributed that to bottlenecks throughout human history.


Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyTheWhale View Post
I remember my ninth grade teacher going through a list of how much Bill Nye got his science either wrong or outdated. It was kind of an intro to how high school science, "real" science was done.

I like the satirical old style "Mr. Wizard" show.
I don't really know. However, he had two different shows. His more famous and popular one was "Bill Nye the Science Guy" and was made for kids, so would fit what you were talking about. The one I posted was an episode of "The Eyes of Nye" so it was made for an older audience. Not really sure what your teacher was talking about, so maybe he meant the other show?

Last edited by SuperDinoYoshi; 06-27-2008 at 09:14 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-27-2008, 07:38 PM
SpankyTheWhale's Avatar
SpankyTheWhale SpankyTheWhale is online now
Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: right behind you
Age: 2
Posts: 7,727
SpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond reputeSpankyTheWhale has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 26,639
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDinoYoshi View Post
I don't really know. However, he had two different shows. His more famous and popular one was "Bill Nye the Science Guy" and was made for kids, so would fit what you were talking about. The one I posted was an episode of "The Eyes of Nye" so it was made for an older audience. Not really sure what your teacher was talking about, so maybe he meant the other show?
My teacher was definitely talking about the kids' show.
__________________
You don't have to pretend to like someone just because you are voting for him.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-29-2008, 07:16 AM
Joker's Avatar
Joker Joker is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: the process of locating.
Posts: 5,668
us new jersey
Joker has a reputation beyond reputeJoker has a reputation beyond reputeJoker has a reputation beyond reputeJoker has a reputation beyond reputeJoker has a reputation beyond reputeJoker has a reputation beyond reputeJoker has a reputation beyond reputeJoker has a reputation beyond reputeJoker has a reputation beyond reputeJoker has a reputation beyond reputeJoker has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 63,758
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by onalandline View Post
Interesting subject. I guess we're all part of the same race, The Human Race. I wonder how they account for different bone and eye structures?
I'm no expert, but I would guess gene pools that have been isolated for tens of thousands of years is the only factor that causes the very few differences between the races.
__________________
WARNING: In the unlikely event of an accidental agreement with any or all points made in the above post, contact a clinical psychologist immediately.

The views expressed in the above post are not necessarily those of Joker and/or any of his affiliates.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-29-2008, 07:35 AM
TheChief's Avatar
TheChief TheChief is offline
Analyst
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Australia, Perth
Posts: 2,794
usa
TheChief has a brilliant futureTheChief has a brilliant futureTheChief has a brilliant futureTheChief has a brilliant futureTheChief has a brilliant futureTheChief has a brilliant futureTheChief has a brilliant futureTheChief has a brilliant futureTheChief has a brilliant futureTheChief has a brilliant futureTheChief has a brilliant future
Credits: 1,341
Default

This video uses emotion and opinion and not actual science. There are tonnes of anthropologists who spend all day studying the differences between different groups of humans. Were not all alike and we didn't all spend thousands of years in the same place eating the same food and experiencing the same difficulties and challanges. There are biological differences between races. In medicine certain races are more suseptible to certain deseases or more resistant. The idea that race makes us different doesn't mean we can't be equals.

And I don't know why Bill Nye thinks it should.. well hey he's probable a closet kkk..
__________________
Left sucks! so visit our new group! Obama is a Joke!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 06-29-2008, 07:55 AM
StarryStarrySkies's Avatar
StarryStarrySkies StarryStarrySkies is offline
Commentator
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa
Age: 20
Posts: 1,349
StarryStarrySkies is a name known to allStarryStarrySkies is a name known to allStarryStarrySkies is a name known to allStarryStarrySkies is a name known to allStarryStarrySkies is a name known to allStarryStarrySkies is a name known to all
Credits: 1,256
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDinoYoshi View Post
Here's an old (but relevant) video where Bill Nye talks about race. He presents a compelling argument that there really is no such thing as race, and mentions how scientific academies have been suggesting to governments to get rid of the term.
Not that Bill Nye isn't the fountain of scientific knowledge but the argument that race is a social construct has been around for decades (if not just somewhat recently brought to the forefront).

American Anthropological Association: Statement on Race
([...]it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within "racial" groups than between them.) - http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm
__________________
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
-Dr. Carl Sagan
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 06-29-2008, 08:11 AM
WafflesFTW WafflesFTW is offline
Correspondent
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NJ, USA
Posts: 233
us new jersey
WafflesFTW will become famous soon enough
Credits: 1,166
Default

Well, naturally people of different races will have different variation. Duh, or we would all be identical. The key there is the 6%. 6% of 30 MILLION possible differences result in about 1.8 MILLION base pairs unique to a group. That means, ALL individuals in the group have it. Given that humans and chimps are seperated by only 6% genetic difference, this quantity is most certainly LARGE ENOUGH, to provide distinction for each race.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 06-30-2008, 01:14 AM
SuperDinoYoshi's Avatar
SuperDinoYoshi SuperDinoYoshi is offline
Sr. Correspondent
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 749
usa us florida
SuperDinoYoshi is just really niceSuperDinoYoshi is just really niceSuperDinoYoshi is just really niceSuperDinoYoshi is just really nice
Credits: 5,859
Send a message via AIM to SuperDinoYoshi
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChief View Post
This video uses emotion and opinion and not actual science. There are tonnes of anthropologists who spend all day studying the differences between different groups of humans. Were not all alike and we didn't all spend thousands of years in the same place eating the same food and experiencing the same difficulties and challanges. There are biological differences between races. In medicine certain races are more suseptible to certain deseases or more resistant. The idea that race makes us different doesn't mean we can't be equals.
He isn't saying there aren't differences. (That would be like double speak, we have different skin colors, for 1) He's saying that the varying adaptations we have are minimal and can't be used to really pin down your country of origin. Our race (the human race) consists of people so simillar to eachother you could compare the dna of two people in the same village and find the same amount of variation as comparing one person in a village to another half a world away. (Or so is claimed in the video, I haven't done enough research on my own to have an opinion I could claim as my own)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChief View Post
And I don't know why Bill Nye thinks it should.. well hey he's probable a closet kkk..
Anything is possible, but thats a bit of a stretch.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WafflesFTW View Post
Well, naturally people of different races will have different variation. Duh, or we would all be identical. The key there is the 6%. 6% of 30 MILLION possible differences result in about 1.8 MILLION base pairs unique to a group. That means, ALL individuals in the group have it. Given that humans and chimps are seperated by only 6% genetic difference, this quantity is most certainly LARGE ENOUGH, to provide distinction for each race.
The variation between a human of one "race" to another "race" is the same as 2 people in the same "race", so its nothing like the amount of variation between us an chimps. (Again, just quoting from the video)
__________________
Quote:
The history of liberty is a history of limitations of governmental power, not the increase of it.

Neutrality is a negative word. It does not express what America ought to feel. We are not trying to keep out of trouble; we are trying to preserve the foundations on which peace may be rebuilt.

I not only use all the brains that I have, but all that I can borrow.
Woodrow Wilson
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
bill nye, evidence, race, science

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bill Whines: Obama Played Race Card On Me SweetnessBlog Political Blogs 1 04-22-2008 09:14 AM
our scientific men sound the alarm Bombing Western Europe 0 03-18-2008 07:37 AM
Edwards as Kingmaker, Huckabee's Race Problem, Barack v. Bill and Pentagon Honesty SeminalBlog Political Blogs 0 01-20-2008 03:50 PM
Bill Richardson drops out of race DuH2 Elections & Campaigns 15 01-10-2008 05:18 PM
Scientific Fraud... JavaBlack Current Events 2 12-15-2005 08:23 PM

Sponsored Links

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Template-Modifikationen durch TMS
vBCredits v1.3 ©2007 by Darkwaltz4
Advertisement System V2.1 By   Branden