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Really? When? In 2008? Or for 2012? That's a (*)(*)(*)(*) shame. I'm a Democrat, but depending who he's running against I could potentially be swayed to vote for Powell. I maybe would have taken him over Kerry.
Because he is black?
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I would bet that powell could potentially give Obama a run for his money even in 2012 if the economy doesn't get better and if he isn't able to successfully pass any of his big change like health care, get out of Iraq or make Afghanistan look a lot better. All he would have to do is be completely respectful in his opposition, say that he understands Obama's ideas but they haven't worked and I have some that can work better. Then the RNC would just have to run ad after ad about him being CJCS during the Iraq war that actually went well and all of the diplomatic experience he got as SECSTATE. I could see him swinging a lot of black voters over to the republicans.

This is of course only feasible if Obama fails to deliver to the expectations of the voters.
No way in the world Powell can get any base support. He's a turncoat leftist without the decency to call himself a Democrat.
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I would bet that powell could potentially give Obama a run for his money even in 2012 if the economy doesn't get better and if he isn't able to successfully pass any of his big change like health care, get out of Iraq or make Afghanistan look a lot better. All he would have to do is be completely respectful in his opposition, say that he understands Obama's ideas but they haven't worked and I have some that can work better. Then the RNC would just have to run ad after ad about him being CJCS during the Iraq war that actually went well and all of the diplomatic experience he got as SECSTATE. I could see him swinging a lot of black voters over to the republicans.

This is of course only feasible if Obama fails to deliver to the expectations of the voters.
Obama is doing well with that now.
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No way in the world Powell can get any base support. He's a turncoat leftist without the decency to call himself a Democrat.
I agree. Obama had no experience, and his associations were questionable. According to the way Powell thinks, he should not have endorsed Obama. It was clear that he only did it because he is Black.
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[quote=teamosil;1560813]Colin Powell nailed it.



Powell is who the GOP should be running for president imo. He's way smarter, more experienced, more respected, and more sensible than any of the other contenders. He has credibility not just in the Republican party, but with moderates and liberals as well. Not to mention the high esteem he's held in internationally. Maybe wait until 2016 for him though. It'd be tough for him to run against Obama after endorsing him in 2008. But he blows the doors off those hill billies on the GOP's short list so far.

And Powell and Ron Paul are the only two possibilities that you can say 100% for sure aren't closet neocons.

There was a time,maybe even a year ago at this time,right
before Powell strategically made the decision to voice support
for Obama and announce favor of a " Statist " ideal,that Powell
might have been as popular as in years past.There was a time,
Powell was considered an electrifying choice to run for Pres.
That entire dynamic went straight down the tubes faster than
one flushing a toilet.
Powell is Finished.Fini.
He blew it big time.Shot his wad and mouth and an entirely
inappropriate time.
I was one of the first to call him what he Is.
General Ass. A true Ameircan Turncoat.
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Because he is black?
Do you see how racist your comment is or no? To assume that somebody would only vote for a black candidate, who has radically more experience than any of the other GOP contenders, and who is substantially smarter, because he is black? You missed that didn't you....
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There was a time,maybe even a year ago at this time,right
before Powell strategically made the decision to voice support
for Obama and announce favor of a " Statist " ideal,that Powell
might have been as popular as in years past.There was a time,
Powell was considered an electrifying choice to run for Pres.
That entire dynamic went straight down the tubes faster than
one flushing a toilet.
Powell is Finished.Fini.
He blew it big time.Shot his wad and mouth and an entirely
inappropriate time.
I was one of the first to call him what he Is.
General Ass. A true Ameircan Turncoat.
Americans still don't cotton turncoats.
Trust me on dat.
Foolardi it's way to hard to try to read your posts with that crazy carriage returns at arbitrary places thing you do.
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Do you see how racist your comment is or no? To assume that somebody would only vote for a black candidate, who has radically more experience than any of the other GOP contenders, and who is substantially smarter, because he is black? You missed that didn't you....
I noticed you didn't answer my question, typical.
Smokescreens like yours do not work on me.

Powell has exeperience only in the military. Why would he bae a far better candidate than any other GOP guy out there?
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Powell has exeperience only in the military. Why would he bae a far better candidate than any other GOP guy out there?
Lol... Powell was the secretary of state for Bush. The department of state is not part of the military... He's been working in one of the top white house posts or another for most of the last 22 years, about half of them military and half civilian. Compare that to, say, half a failed term as the governor of a rural state...

But to answer your question, no, of course, the reason I would consider voting for him if he ran against a weak Democratic candidate is not because he's black, it's because he's very smart, very well informed, and completely reasonable.

The reason you assume that is because you see that he is black and you stop looking at his character, experience, intellect, etc. You see why that's a problem, right?

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Lol... Powell was the secretary of state for Bush. The department of state is not part of the military... He's been working in one of the top white house posts or another for most of the last 22 years, about half of them military and half civilian. Compare that to, say, half a failed term as the governor of a rural state...

But to answer your question, no, of course, the reason I would consider voting for him if he ran against a weak Democratic candidate is not because he's black, it's because he's very smart, very well informed, and completely reasonable.
he was also NSA to Reagan
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