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Read the article about Coliin Powell Critiquing Gate's behavior. You will like it. Powell essentially says that Gates could have been more careful and thoughtful in his reactions; that it was probably not a good time to pick a fight with the police. And what Powell says represents how Black folks traditionally raise their kids and actually interact with police. Gates knows the drill. So what Powell says is a good way to go...not very different from what you and some others are arguing. LOL. But at the same time...some of you are just going to have to get used to the fact that it is not the "only" good way to go. Today, many Black folks are aware of their freedoms and their rights. We don't have to choose to submit to bad treatment (and I am not saying that Crowley treated Gates badly). We don't have to "cooperate" with police....particularly if we have not done anything wrong. And we have freedom of speech just like any other citizen. So Gates...in his own house...is within his rights to ask about racism, profiling or whatever. He is within is rights to ask or demand that the Officer provide complete identification. He can talk about the officer's momma, he can call him a racist. He can use whatever speech he wants to...in his own home and on his own porch. It's not against the law. I'm not convinced that this approach is the best way to go. I'm not surprised that that kind of behavior can lead to an arrest. But the fact is...that it is not against the law. Further, it is not even very different from how some white folks respond to cops. Gates did not break any laws. He was sitting in his own home. Crowley investigated that...and it does not seem like he did anything wrong during most of that investigation. But his arrest of Gates was both wrong and stupid. There is no question of that. Why? Because Gates did not break any law. All he did was hurt the officer's little feelings. Better get used to it. Some Black folks have influence and power that rivals that of some white folks. It is more and more superior to that of working class and middle class white folks. I think it is a good idea for Blacks to be calm and polite and civil. But it is a choice...not a requirement. If you are at my house and I decide to talk about yo mamma...if you don't like it...you can get to steppin right out of my house. No problem. Even if you be the police. But it is pretty stupid to try and arrest me or arrest me for exercising my rights...no matter how offensive or disrespectful it is. I wish an officer would arrest me for yelling or hurting his feelings. My lawyers would clown on him and the police department and they would lose any case that I brought...as long as I had not actually broken any laws. And that is as good a sense as any. It might be different if I am in a park or at a ball game. LOL. Let me break it down like this. The officer did not properly identify himself. He did not give his full name nor badge number. Gates...in his own home...would be within his rights to go get his gun and blow the officer away. He would say that he didn't know who that guy was...and he was all up in his house making demands. And if the other cops present did not kill him on the spot...he would not be convicted at trial. Now for Gates to act in that way would be "stupid"...but not wrong. The officer acted in a stupid fashion...once he arrested Gates. It was also stupid not to provide Gates with his full name and badge number. Anyway, I am laughing at the whole notion of what kind of "sense" Gates used. Some white folks seem to be under the impression that the Police are somehow entitled to respect. Well. That is funny. Because we know that this is not true even within white culture. I think that police "should" be respected by most, if not all people. But respect is not a requirement and lots of folks...whites, Blacks, and others do not have respect for police...for good reasons and bad reasons. Besides. The fact is that for Black folks...being polite, cooperating and providing information often enough ends in death. "Oh...I thought he was reaching for a gun"...when a person was reaching for their eyeglasses or wallet. No. Even "if" Gates took the position that the cop was racist and that he did not know who he was messing with...if he could not get proper identification...and was in his own house without doing anything wrong...Gates was within his rights to tell the Officer to get the F up out of his house and ask his mama about stepping out on the porch. Sorry. It's not against the law. Us be free now. Us be free. We can tell a cop to F off...just like some white folks do. |
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First of all "stupidly" demonstrates clearly that he was emotionally involved in the situation, although he admits to knowing little about it. Is that appropriate for a president? Furthermore, he turned a non racial issue into a nationwide side taking fiasco. Is that what a President should do?
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He wasn't using his brain then, he was just kissing ass. |
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After that happened, Powell started making public comments opposing the push for war. He became such a thorn in Bush's side on the war that Bush fired him. Powell later described the presentation he made at the UN as the most embarrassing mistake of his life and said that he never should have agreed to go until he personally confirmed the information they gave him from multiple independant sources. A secretary of state should not have to do that. The white house should not be lying to the secretary of state, and I don't know that the whitehouse has ever done that before in US history. There probably is some instance of it that I don't know about though. So, I don't blame him for not realizing that he was being lied to right off the bat. I think the argument you're making applies to Condoleeza Rice though. She is very smart too, and prior to Bush's reign I might have considered her a reasonable candidate. Her and Powell very much saw eye to eye on international relations and the war at the start, but when Bush made it clear that he wasn't going to tolerate opposition from Powell, she shut up and got in line. By the end of his administration, she was publicly supporting positions and tactics that she had always opposed for her entire career before that. In my opinion, she sold out, Powell refused to sell out, and he got the boot for that. |
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I can see with voters llike you why he got elected in the first place. His off the cuff, ignorant and childish remark, is going to hurt him more than he knows right now. It shows how he thinks, his gut reaction to situations, and it ain't good. He thinks his little beer fest is gonna make it allright. He really thinks Americans are stupid, doesn't he? |
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umm yeh and just the fact that he got himself elected on a platform of undefined change shows that he is mostly right in his assessment. Unfortunately for him, people are starting to wake up now, as his recent polls show.
What I wonder is why more people are not more vocal at the transparent attempt to buy back the good will of the police with Bidens over the top announcement of the 1 billion for police which was part of Nancy's porkulus bill. I have 5 bucks that says that if not for Obama's gaff the other night that Biden would not have had his photo op with all the cops in the background ![]()
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