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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainman View Post
    God wants us to have faith in Him.
    I can't have faith in something for which there is no evidence or reason. Otherwise, I might as well have faith in Allah, Gaia, Zeus, faeries, gremlins, and elves.

    If He were to reveal openly Himself, we would have knowledge, but not necessarily faith.
    Incorrect, and too generalized. Jesus' own disciples for example.

    For those who do have faith, He has been revealed. I see God every day, all around me.
    What does it look like? I have a feeling the more specific you get the more wrong you will be when compared to another person who claims they see god.
    Last edited by k7leetha; Apr 16 2011 at 07:29 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by k7leetha View Post
    I can't have faith in something for which there is no evidence or reason. Otherwise, I might as well have faith in Allah, Gaia, Zeus, faeries, gremlins, and elves.
    That is ultimately your choice. I am thankful that I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainman View Post
    That is ultimately your choice. I am thankful that I can.
    That's just the point. It isn't a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainman View Post
    That is ultimately your choice. I am thankful that I can.
    choice is very important in any context of lying to yourself.

    As a mountain man, is mother nature just the mosterestest bestest?

    What has the guy on a thrown with lightning bolts in his hands done for anything except give you a vision of hope?

    Be fair. What has any belief done for you or mankind that a human being did not teach you?

    Ie.... Mankind created all words so everything you know of religion was created by people but nature supports your whole existence and you don't have a choice on that belief (fact).
    If existence only operates ONE way, is the math the name to know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainman View Post
    That is ultimately your choice. I am thankful that I can.
    I don't get it, how do you rationalize that against everything else in your life that you require evidence for?

    I'm also disappointed you chose to leave out the rest, specifically my question to you, "What does it (god) look like? I have a feeling the more specific you get the more wrong you will be when compared to another person who claims they see god."
    Last edited by k7leetha; Apr 16 2011 at 08:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elijah View Post
    Really? If a diety showed Himself to you, would you believe, or rationalize it away?
    These people think we do not have the right to have Obama show his real Birth Certificate, yet they feel God should show himself,,,,go figure...
    Infraction??, but he insulted me FIRST!!
    So report him.He reported you, we usually check reports first. Next time report him
    Oh, I will thanx...

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    He did, in the park, and got himself arrested.
    It is better to live on your feet than to die on your knees

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    Quote Originally Posted by yardmeat View Post
    That's just the point. It isn't a choice.
    It is a choice. I know, because it is one I have made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishadi View Post
    choice is very important in any context of lying to yourself.

    As a mountain man, is mother nature just the mosterestest bestest?

    What has the guy on a thrown with lightning bolts in his hands done for anything except give you a vision of hope?

    Be fair. What has any belief done for you or mankind that a human being did not teach you?

    Ie.... Mankind created all words so everything you know of religion was created by people but nature supports your whole existence and you don't have a choice on that belief (fact).
    Quote Originally Posted by k7leetha View Post
    I don't get it, how do you rationalize that against everything else in your life that you require evidence for?

    I'm also disappointed you chose to leave out the rest, specifically my question to you, "What does it (god) look like? I have a feeling the more specific you get the more wrong you will be when compared to another person who claims they see god."
    I came on the thread to answer the original question, not to have my faith attacked. Those who choose to deny God are free to do so, and I respect your decision. All I ask is that you show me the same courtesy.

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    Moses saw a burning bush and YHWH hasn't been "seen" since.
    If we do not learn from the past, we will keep making the same stupid mistakes

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