Thread: Noah’s Ark just got more unbelievable.

Originally Posted by Giftedone

OK .. so you have no Biblical support for your opinion of what or who the anti-christ is.

Fair enough

You never answered this question though.

Since when do you believe the Scripture. You asked for a definition of anti-christ and I gave it to you.

You aint seen nothing yet.

Quantrill

Originally Posted by Quantrill

Why is it poor planning. The only people who have a problem with it are the unbelievers. And what does that matter?

Not really, not all Christians see the Bible as literal for a reason.

See, your only looking for contridictions. Your not looking for answers or truth.

My mind is open to the concept of a God, but if a God exists he has to do a much better job of providing evidence for that.

Well, Gods method has worked pretty well. He has gotten His Word out to all the world. Not bad uh?

Well, all the world except for the people that still don't have much contact with the outside world. And it only took him 2,000 years to get out his message. What about those people throughout history that didn't learn about the Christian God? They must've been screwed, huh?

Nothing has been added to the Bible.

Quantrill

So your explanation as to why certain verses appear in newer versions but not in the manuscripts?

Originally Posted by GraspingforPeace

Not really, not all Christians see the Bible as literal for a reason.



My mind is open to the concept of a God, but if a God exists he has to do a much better job of providing evidence for that.



Well, all the world except for the people that still don't have much contact with the outside world. And it only took him 2,000 years to get out his message. What about those people throughout history that didn't learn about the Christian God? They must've been screwed, huh?



So your explanation as to why certain verses appear in newer versions but not in the manuscripts?

Not all who say they are Christian are Christian. So, again, the believers don't have a problem with apparent contridictions.

God is not concerned with giving you evidence. So just forget it.

All have the knowledge to make a decision to want God in their lives or not. Even if the Bible is not known to them. All are responsible and accountable.

Nothing has been added to the Bible. If somone makes some false version, then its compared to the Hebrew and Greek and is either corrected or revealed that it is in error.

Quantrill

Originally Posted by Quantrill

Not all who say they are Christian are Christian. So, again, the believers don't have a problem with apparent contridictions.

Oh, I see, so you determine who is a believer or not.

God is not concerned with giving you evidence. So just forget it.

Ah, yes, he is concerned only with playing with the human race.

All have the knowledge to make a decision to want God in their lives or not. Even if the Bible is not known to them. All are responsible and accountable.

Uh, then what is the point of the Bible?

Nothing has been added to the Bible. If somone makes some false version, then its compared to the Hebrew and Greek and is either corrected or revealed that it is in error.

Quantrill

Then WHY are there verses in the Bible that were not in the manuscripts? Saying they aren't there is just a lie. They ARE there, and they WERE NOT there previously.

Originally Posted by GraspingforPeace

Oh, I see, so you determine who is a believer or not.



Ah, yes, he is concerned only with playing with the human race.



Uh, then what is the point of the Bible?



Then WHY are there verses in the Bible that were not in the manuscripts? Saying they aren't there is just a lie. They ARE there, and they WERE NOT there previously.

I know there are many who claim to be 'Christian' but are not. I don't know any Christians, and I know a lot of them, who are worried about apparent contridictions in the Bible.

No, He is not playing. Its eternally serious.

Uh, then, to get a full revelation of what He wants His people to know.

If you got some your want to discuss then present them. Nothing has been added to the Bible.

Quantrill

Originally Posted by Quantrill

I know there are many who claim to be 'Christian' but are not. I don't know any Christians, and I know a lot of them, who are worried about apparent contridictions in the Bible.

But the Christians that don't think the Bible is literal are not Christians according to you, right?

No, He is not playing. Its eternally serious.

The consequences may be eternal, but the game is anything but serious. If God is real, he has made this life a cruel joke.

Uh, then, to get a full revelation of what He wants His people to know.

But you just said that people don't need it.

If you got some your want to discuss then present them. Nothing has been added to the Bible.

Quantrill

I already have, read back a few pages, I listed quite a couple of verses.

Originally Posted by Margot

Most Protestant Reformers identify the Roman papacy as the anti-Christ... like
Martin Luther, John Calvin, Thomas Cranmer, John Knox, and Cotton Mather

Which is of course, a very good reason to ignore their teachings.

Originally Posted by Giftedone

Darn tooten it was not very nice. 1600 years of genocide, torture, persecution and killing of Jews, is nothing to be proud of.

The reason the CC gets all the blame is because they are the ones that are to blame ?

We seemed to have forgotten this in recent times but the founding fathers were well aware.

The point, purpose, and spirit of the US constitution is based on freedom "from" religion.

The founding fathers took their Anti-Catholic bigotry from England. This is all made up history. The Church has had it's faults, but to say that they have been running around killng people since the collapse of the Roman Empire is preposterous. Come to me when you have actual facts.

Originally Posted by GraspingforPeace

But the Christians that don't think the Bible is literal are not Christians according to you, right?



The consequences may be eternal, but the game is anything but serious. If God is real, he has made this life a cruel joke.



But you just said that people don't need it.



I already have, read back a few pages, I listed quite a couple of verses.

Your question makes no sense. Its not a question of 'is the Bible literal?' Literal has to do with the correct interpretation of the Bible. Literal interpretation allows for symbols, metaphors, types, etc. to be used. But the Bible is not to be interpreted symbolically.

There are those Christians who do intepret certain Scriptures allegorically that I and others disagree with. But, they do not interpret all Scripture allegorically. In other words, what is meant is what is said.

Those who see the Bible as just stories, such as your describing, and not real, are not Christian. They simply take away from anything the Bible says, and inject their own foolish doctrine. And these also will not see the Bible as the Word of God. They will not see Jesus as the Son of God and Saviour of the World. But this book, the Bible, will be seen by them as a 'good' book, given for us to do good. It brings out the better nature in us. And more such vomit.

The consequenses are eternal. And it is no joke.

I said people everywhere have enough revelation from God to make a decision as to whether or not to follow God. But, God has given us, the believers, more of His revelation in the Bible.

There were none of those that are added to the Bible.

Quantrill

=Quantrill;4439577]Believers are not worried about the apparent contridictions. They know there are no contridictions.

Apparently have been concerned about the contradictions for centuries .. hence the large amount of debate.

Pay attention a little bit. What is being addressed is the method of getting the Bible out to the world.

What is being addressed is the anti-Christ ..and the evil deeds done by this institution.

If you are ok with 1600 years of torture and murder to get the word out .. then I am not interested in your belief system.

Obviously the spirits you claim to communicate with are demonic.

Nothing has been added to the Bible.

Ignorance and denial of history, science, archaeology, logic, math, and geology is the basis of your belief system.

Christ tells us seek and find the truth .. those spirits that tell you to close your mind to the truth are against Christ.