Why are there so many priests that are pedos?

**TheHat** · Oct 07 2011, 05:30 AM

Diligent, just b/c you had 1 priest in your Diocese do such a thing, doesn't mean you can project that act upon all other priests.

The rest of your comment isn't factually based, it's just ranting.

**TheHat** · Oct 07 2011, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Anobsitar

It's extreme seldom - although all catholics have to pay for. Every married man or every non-priest-man is much more dangerous in average. But as seldom as hard is the shock.

http://youtu.be/eC-JKId3SoA

Correct. It's just the profession of the person doing the act that is cause for more concern then would normally be reported.

If Local Johnny molested Little Dorthy down the street it's a 2 day news stint.

If a priest does it, it goes on for months if not years.

**Iolo** · Oct 07 2011, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by TheHat

Correct. It's just the profession of the person doing the act that is cause for more concern then would normally be reported.

If Local Johnny molested Little Dorthy down the street it's a 2 day news stint.

If a priest does it, it goes on for months if not years.

Local Johnny doesn't claim moral superiority and social power, or reckon to represent God in his neighbourhood. I do think that RC priests have turned out to be much more hypocritical and much more brutally nasty than other clergy or youth workers AND they've had a big organisational cover-up put on for them, as if they were police or such.

**FreeWare** · Oct 07 2011, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by TheHat

Correct. It's just the profession of the person doing the act that is cause for more concern then would normally be reported.

If Local Johnny molested Little Dorthy down the street it's a 2 day news stint.

If a priest does it, it goes on for months if not years.

The deliberate decisions to keep molestation within the organization by coverups and relocations of priests will leave a legacy that resembles some kind of organized child abuse. Local Johnny will also leave a legacy but he has his job cut out for him if he has to match that of the RCC.

**diligent** · Oct 08 2011, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by TheHat

Diligent, just b/c you had 1 priest in your Diocese do such a thing, doesn't mean you can project that act upon all other priests.

The rest of your comment isn't factually based, it's just ranting.

The Hat.

Since I have not been a practising Catholic for a very long time (I wouldn't even know my Diocese), I can't comprehend how you draw the assumption that 'it' occurred in my Diocese. This despicable event was highlighted in the daily press in the last month and I wouldn't even know in which Diocese it occurred.

The important issue is thatit occurred some decades ago and has only recently been revealed and, ONCE AGAIN, it was smothered in a blanket of secrecy by the RC hirearchy. Why can't the RC hirearachy be charged with hiding such a hidieous crime, a crime committed on innocent children?

**Anobsitar** · Oct 08 2011, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Iolo

The odd aspect of all this is how divided opinion is on this sort of thing. An RC social worker of my acquaintance just laughed and said 'Well, good heavens, nobody ever leaves kids alone with a priest'.

That’s exactly what’s the aim of the enemies of the catholic church. To eliminate all forms of trust. If he is not a German - end even the most Germans don't do - then he's maybe not able to see how nazi-like are lots of attacks against the catholic church in this context. Short summary: "Everyone is innocent before it's clear that he's a criminal - except he's a priest of the catholic church. Everyone has to pay for his own deeds - except it is the whole catholic church who has to pay for the deed of every clerics. ...”

Others are shocked.

I'm not shocked because I'm reading newspapers and books. I don't know why many people say they are not informed about very old facts. Nearyl everything stood in german newpapers since a very long time before suddenly .... I’m not even able to say what this was what suddenly appeared. I would say it was a psychological defect of the masses.

I think

Most people call the summary of their own prejudices "I think"

that like quite a lot of nastiness it has existed in tradition societies like Ireland

I would say: You are a very nasti person to call a whole nation "nasti" because they are irish and catholics.

for a very long time, and is just part of the hypocricy that goes with a 'national' religion.

The poor irish people had helped lots of german children after world war 2. I saw once a very interesting film about the situation of this children and the difficult sitiuation of the irish people and I’m only able to say: I'm full of the highest respect for the people in Ireland.

And the stories I hear about - say - the Christian Brothers who were so influential in the past indicate that those who weren't paedophiles were sadists - as were a great many nuns. We're in this world to suffer, and they saw to it children did!

You can find every 100 yards a monastery full of baby bones since Nero because Christians are murdering children in their celebrations and are drinking their blood. Most people for example are also thinking the iron maiden was an instrument of the inquisition - but indeed it's only an invention for touristst without any historical background. For sure I know that you antitraditional arguments have a very long tradition. Perhaps you should think about what my old master Yoda some hundred years ago once said when he was a very young ... ¿? hmmm ... a very young Yoda: "When 900 years you reach, look as good, you will not." I would say the catholic church looks very young compared with Yoda although she's 2000 years old. Forgiven he will.

http://youtu.be/ptZM237w7EA

**Iolo** · Oct 09 2011, 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by Anobsitar

That’s exactly what’s the aim of the enemies of the catholic church. To eliminate all forms of trust. If he is not a German - end even the most Germans don't do - then he's maybe not able to see how nazi-like are lots of attacks against the catholic church in this context.

She is a person with a family history of four generations of Irish nationalist Catholicism.

Originally Posted by Anobsitar

I would say: You are a very nasti person to call a whole nation "nasti" because they are irish and catholics.

I didn't. I said that traditional societies hide a lot of nastiness. They do.

The rest is about what's in your head, not my post.

**Anobsitar** · Oct 09 2011, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Iolo

She is a person with a family history of four generations of Irish nationalist Catholicism. ...

There is no concept of nationalism existing within the catholic church. And what she said is more than only nonsense. If she knows something about a pedofile behavior of a clerics then she has to inform her diocese as a member of the catholic church - if she knows something about a crime then she has to inform the police as a citizen of her state. So she did nothing except using the concept of generalized mistrust against everyone who is not "like we are".

Originally Posted by Iolo

... I said that traditional societies hide a lot of nastiness. They do. ...

"The hell are always the others" - Jean Paul Sartre

http://youtu.be/7qL9wcFr2dg

**Iolo** · Oct 09 2011, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by Anobsitar

There is no concept of nationalism existing within the catholic church. And what she said is more than only nonsense. If she knows something about a pedofile behavior of a clerics then she has to inform her diocese as a member of the catholic church - if she knows something about a crime then she has to inform the police as a citizen of her state. So she did nothing except using the concept of generalized mistrust against everyone who is not "like we are".

"The hell are always the others" - Jean Paul Sartre

http://youtu.be/7qL9wcFr2dg

Well, we all know how helpfully RC dioces responded to such complaints, don't we?