Thread: Evolution is a joke Pt. VIII

Originally Posted by youenjoyme420

I'm not feeding your bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I studied something that you clearly know nothing about. Find something better to talk about. If a thread can have 8 "parts", and the same questions are still being asked, and the same answers are still being ignored, then its time to move on.

Sure you have... You didn't even know the meaning to evolution and I am to think you are studied... I don't think so...

And since you think you're all studied - answer this question since nobody has - ever...

After every major extinction we can see life that was before the extinction and after the extinction. The question I ask you is, why is it after every major extinction the life that survived is still the same and it seem that life just "appears" out of nowhere in the fossil record as if it just "appeared" out of magic?

Because, per the fossil record, there is no evidence of what was before and survived an extinction evolving into anything, those lifeforms stayed the same...

Riddle me that one educated one!

Originally Posted by DBM aka FDS

Okay then then - I'll play along with this ridiculousness.....



What is the name of the organism it "turned" into?

Why does simple concepts allude you?

Going from a single-cell to a multi-cell organism is a gigantic step in the evolutionary process,even thou its the same creature.

What part of this are you having trouble with?

Originally Posted by DBM aka FDS

Seems that there are others. And other who read this thread regularly...

Sure, man. Plenty of other people. That's why you had all of one other poster (besides myself) interacting with you in this thread for more than two weeks. When you don't bump this thread yourself, it dies.

Originally Posted by DBM aka FDS

Hey, are you going to answer the question or not...

Just wondering or just stay off the subject for as long as possible hoping I forget.

I've already answered the question twice in the past. As I already said, I won't be wasting time answering it a third time just to have you ignore and/or forget it.

Originally Posted by DBM aka FDS

Also, when you got retarded sloppy with your posts (which has happened often) I asked questions instead of saying is English your first language. Believe me - your posts have been cryptic to say the least (when you got stoppy that is) and I was able to figure them out. I apologize that you struggle with "simple" English, and if you think I type archaic, then please quote a couple posts where I have demonstrated this, because I think that your post is incorrect and as you have done so many times previously (just check a couple pages back) when cornered and can’t answer you resort this posting stuff like this…

It was an honest question. I'm guessing English is your first language, based on your huffy response. Ironic, then, that said response contains a number of typos and missing or incorrect words. I almost never point out other posters' grammar issues, and I didn't do it here to try to attack you. The point of asking was to determine if you're having trouble conveying your message because of some limitation, or if you just don't want to put forth the effort to proofread your own posts. Looks like it's the latter. It was just for my own edification, so don't get all worked up over it. No one is perfect, and I include myself in that of course.

Originally Posted by rstones199

Why does simple concepts allude you?

Going from a single-cell to a multi-cell organism is a gigantic step in the evolutionary process,[ ]even thou it[‘]s the same creature.

What part of this are you having trouble with?

I am not having trouble – it is you who is having the difficulty. Like I stated before… Please try to understand. Is a field of grass different than a single grass blade? Is grass (as the article stated) “clumping” together to make a field of grass evolution? OF COURSE IT ISN’T!!!!

Why you think that life that has the ability to “clump” together means anything more than it “clumping” together is baffling. Is evolution (common descent/ancestry with modification) life that clumps together? Is that what you think? Do you think the definition of evolution is common breeds of life that have the ability to clump together?

Please know the definition of evolution – we’ve been through this like 100 times and you still struggle. When you read things that deal with evolution ask yourself (before posting it) is this “really” dealing with evolution or some fabricated propaganda to bolster the religion that is Darwinism? Try it… it will probably help you out before posting yeast clumping together is an example of evolution…

Now that we have trailed off significantly – let us bring it back to the topic.. and that is evolution!

The mechanism are as follows:

Natural Selection - Survival by selection of what more fit to survive
Mutation - random gene replication errors
Genetic Drift - gene frequency within a population
Sexual Selection - Who's getting busy with who...

Simple questions...

Can evolution of common descent/ancestry happen with just genetic drift and mutation?

Can evolution of common descent/ancestry happen with just genetic drift and natural selection?

Can evolution of common descent/ancestry happen with just genetic drift and Sexual selection?

Can evolution of common descent/ancestry happen with just natural selection and mutation?

Can evolution of common descent/ancestry happen with just natural selelction and Sexual Selection?

Can evolution of common descent/ancestry happen with just sexual selection and mutation?

Can evolution of common descent/ancestry happen with just any ONE of the three by itself? Like can it happen with just mutation or natural selection or sexual selection?

If no, I will be honored to express the previous discussion with Chromosomes and evolution combined in my answers?

Originally Posted by Burzmali

It was an honest question. I'm guessing English is your first language, based on your huffy response. Ironic, then, that said response contains a number of typos and missing or incorrect words. I almost never point out other posters' grammar issues, and I didn't do it here to try to attack you. The point of asking was to determine if you're having trouble conveying your message because of some limitation, or if you just don't want to put forth the effort to proofread your own posts. Looks like it's the latter. It was just for my own edification, so don't get all worked up over it. No one is perfect, and I include myself in that of course.

English is my first language… Again, please provide this – or these posts where my Anglish is not up to your standards… I don’t know how many times that I have stated – I’m not proof-reading anything, I post… Also, when I post I am very vague because the readers (those reading as you can see now) are on all different levels of the subject. This also lets me gage the level of understanding on the subject.

I’ve told you this like 10 times Burz… You say you don’t like repeating this – I just said this like 4 pages back – yet again. But, as you stated, we are all people and all not perfect. We make mistakes. We forget… It seems you forget more than I do though. But, no worries, I will be more than happy to remind you…

Originally Posted by DBM aka FDS

I am not having trouble – it is you who is having the difficulty. Like I stated before… Please try to understand. Is a field of grass different than a single grass blade? Is grass (as the article stated) “clumping” together to make a field of grass evolution? OF COURSE IT ISN’T!!!!

Why you think that life that has the ability to “clump” together means anything more than it “clumping” together is baffling. Is evolution (common descent/ancestry with modification) life that clumps together? Is that what you think? Do you think the definition of evolution is common breeds of life that have the ability to clump together?

Please know the definition of evolution – we’ve been through this like 100 times and you still struggle. When you read things that deal with evolution ask yourself (before posting it) is this “really” dealing with evolution or some fabricated propaganda to bolster the religion that is Darwinism? Try it… it will probably help you out before posting yeast clumping together is an example of evolution…

Wow, you dont read do you?

Within just a few weeks, individual yeast cells still retained their singular identities, but clumped together easily. At the end of two months, the clumps were a permanent arrangement. Each strain had evolved to be truly multicellular, displaying all the tendencies associated with “higher” forms of life: a division of labor between specialized cells, juvenile and adult life stages, and multicellular offspring.

“Multicellularity is the ultimate in cooperation,” said Travisano, who wants to understand how cooperation emerges in selfishly competing organisms. “Multiple cells make make up an individual that cooperates for the benefit of the whole. Sometimes cells give up their ability to reproduce for the benefit of close kin.”

Read!

Permanent

1. Lasting or remaining without essential change: "the universal human yearning for something permanent, enduring, without shadow of change" (Willa Cather).
2. Not expected to change in status, condition, or place: a permanent address; permanent secretary to the president.

Better yet, dont read it. Keep on about clumping. For those who actually read this nonsense, Im sure they are getting a good laugh out your posts.

Originally Posted by rstones199

Wow, you dont read do you?

Read!


Better yet, dont read it. Keep on about clumping. For those who actually read this nonsense, Im sure they are getting a good laugh out your posts.

I do read - it is you that doesn't.

From your article: Once per day they shook the flasks, removed yeast that most rapidly settled to the bottom, and used it to start new cultures. Free-floating yeast were left behind, while yeast that gathered in heavy, fast-falling clumps survived to reproduce.

Within just a few weeks, individual yeast cells still retained their singular identities, but clumped together easily. At the end of two months, the clumps were a permanent arrangement. Each strain had evolved to be truly multicellular, displaying all the tendencies associated with “higher” forms of life: a division of labor between specialized cells, juvenile and adult life stages, and multicellular offspring.

They took a jar of yeast and shook it up and amazingly (I mean this is truly amazing) some of the yeast stuck together in clumps. Who would have thought that shaking up the flast would make yeast stick together in clumps...



This isn't even funny anymore...

Originally Posted by DBM aka FDS

I do read - it is you that doesn't.

From your article: Once per day they shook the flasks, removed yeast that most rapidly settled to the bottom, and used it to start new cultures. Free-floating yeast were left behind, while yeast that gathered in heavy, fast-falling clumps survived to reproduce.

Within just a few weeks, individual yeast cells still retained their singular identities, but clumped together easily. At the end of two months, the clumps were a permanent arrangement. Each strain had evolved to be truly multicellular, displaying all the tendencies associated with “higher” forms of life: a division of labor between specialized cells, juvenile and adult life stages, and multicellular offspring.

They took a jar of yeast and shook it up and amazingly (I mean this is truly amazing) some of the yeast stuck together in clumps. Who would have thought that shaking up the flast would make yeast stick together in clumps...



This isn't even funny anymore...

^^^ As predicted...the comedy continues.....

You get one word stuck in your head and it just echos thru there.

Once again from the article:

Within just a few weeks, individual yeast cells still retained their singular identities, but clumped together easily. At the end of two months, the clumps were a permanent arrangement. Each strain had evolved to be truly multicellular, displaying all the tendencies associated with “higher” forms of life: a division of labor between specialized cells, juvenile and adult life stages, and multicellular offspring.

“Multicellularity is the ultimate in cooperation,” said Travisano, who wants to understand how cooperation emerges in selfishly competing organisms. “Multiple cells make make up an individual that cooperates for the benefit of the whole. Sometimes cells give up their ability to reproduce for the benefit of close kin.”

Tell us Mr Clump, is the multicellular offspring a Clump too?

Originally Posted by rstones199

^^^ As predicted...the comedy continues.....

You get one word stuck in your head and it just echos thru there.

Once again from the article:

Tell us Mr Clump, is the multicellular offspring a Clump too?

You would think you would know by now… I will give you one last chance to say that this is only propaganda or I will show you, yet again that you NEVER look things up before you post… EVER and I know what yeast is… It’s a fungus…

So the FAIL will always be worst when I let you babble on about something you obviously know nothing about. Say it’s Evolution Propaganda and that you were wrong for posting it and all will be well…