Thread: There is no evidence for the existence or non-existence of God...

This is a thread aimed at both religious people and non-religious people, particularly athiests.

I would like to say that religious is something that is based completely on a person's faith. It has nothing to do with scientific evidence or research. Because God, and I am using the word as a general meaning for all gods and not any one particular god, exists outside of the realm of science, science can not be used to prove that he does not exist. At the same time, a person;s faith is not proof that he does exist.

God's existence relies completely on what each person believes and can not be proven nor disproven, because any evidence either way would not be taken seriously because of the preexisting notions that a person has about god.

Originally Posted by Daggdag

This is a thread aimed at both religious people and non-religious people, particularly athiests.

I would like to say that religious is something that is based completely on a person's faith. It has nothing to do with scientific evidence or research. Because God, and I am using the word as a general meaning for all gods and not any one particular god, exists outside of the realm of science, science can not be used to prove that he does not exist. At the same time, a person;s faith is not proof that he does exist.

God's existence relies completely on what each person believes and can not be proven nor disproven, because any evidence either way would not be taken seriously because of the preexisting notions that a person has about god.

Well stated opinion.. now what is the aim of the thread?

Originally Posted by Incorporeal

Well stated opinion.. now what is the aim of the thread?

To end all the endless exiostence of god threads......it cant be proven one way or another so debate is meaningless

Originally Posted by Daggdag

To end all the endless exiostence of god threads......it cant be proven one way or another so debate is meaningless

Good luck on that one. Even if this religious segment of PF were maintained as one that was only allowed to discuss scripture (not the existence of God), there would be some that would introduce argumentation from a science point of view which would set the stage for argumentation of 'the Existence of God'. I don't think you will have much difficulty in identifying who that detractors would be.

Originally Posted by Daggdag

To end all the endless existence of god threads.....

That would take a miracle in itself....

If something has no logical evidence to support it then it can be safely ignored.

Originally Posted by Panzerkampfwagen

If something has no logical evidence to support it then it can be safely ignored.

.. which even religious people know perfecly well, except in one single circumstance, - which they then try hard to make unsafe for others to ignore.

Originally Posted by Daggdag

To end all the endless exiostence of god threads......it cant be proven one way or another so debate is meaningless

The question is "Why is not only nothing existing?" - so we are ourselve somehow the result of a not existing nothing. Meaningless or not - we have to ask - otherwise I'm sure we would drive crazy. We like to know where we are coming from and why we are here. A question in this context could be for example: "Why was everything created here since the beginning and why is a way of a completly planless evolution able to introduce living structures with self-awareness into our 'what for heavens sake is "what"'-universe?" If we like to ask for a detail then a variation of our questions could for example also be "Why are 'Thomaner' singing since 800 years?". We are human beings if we are asking and if we are answering and we will stop to be human beings if we don't like any longer to ask for the realities and/or causes of our transzendental world[s].

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Originally Posted by Panzerkampfwagen

If something has no logical evidence to support it then it can be safely ignored.

I disagree.. Evidence doesn't have to be logical..

What about all unexplained phenomena ? Well I suppose it can be safely ignored, I mean, there is no reason to try an figure those things out, huh ?

Is there something about the term unexplained that you're finding hard to understand? Unexplained is not evidence of god, it's evidence for we don't know wtf that is.

But sure, go with the god of the gap as evidence. That just gives my side a good laugh.