Thread: How can evil exist without God?

Originally Posted by gophangover

All the nuclear fallout from all those tests done in the 40s and 50s are still circling the earth today. That's why cancer is the number one cause of death. Objective and subjective is the Texas two step. Truth, like evil, are facts of reality.

I find your understanding of nuclear physics, or should I say lack thereof, to be amusing. Please, continue talking about concepts you know (*)(*)(*)(*)-all about.

Pro-tip: Radioactive fallout is minimal except in the case of a groundburst detonation or a radiological device. After a nuclear detonation due to the heat you have a lot of evaporated moisture in the atmosphere which condenses as it cools taking with it most of the radioactive particulate, this results in a phenomenon know by the Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors as 'black rain'. In other words the fallout is collected into the water and due to radioactive materials being significantly denser than water they stay where they fall or are washed away. In fact the largest collection of uranium is found in, guess where? The Oceans. Then you have to account for the half-life of an individual particle. If physics operated the way you thought it did Hiroshima and Nagasaki would still be glowing like the sun, whereas in reality the radiation levels had fallen back down to below the background radiation level (IE the level of radiation that occurs naturally) by the late fifties.

Cancer rates are higher today because we live significantly longer and are exposed to radiation levels and toxins for far longer than our predecessors were. It has nothing to do with nuclear testing except in very specific cases.

Originally Posted by Wolf Ritter

Originally Posted by Originally Posted by gophangover

All the nuclear fallout from all those tests done in the 40s and 50s are still circling the earth today. That's why cancer is the number one cause of death. Objective and subjective is the Texas two step. Truth, like evil, are facts of reality.

I find your understanding of nuclear physics, or should I say lack thereof, to be amusing. Please, continue talking about concepts you know (*)(*)(*)(*)-all about.

Pro-tip: Radioactive fallout is minimal except in the case of a groundburst detonation or a radiological device. After a nuclear detonation due to the heat you have a lot of evaporated moisture in the atmosphere which condenses as it cools taking with it most of the radioactive particulate, this results in a phenomenon know by the Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors as 'black rain'. In other words the fallout is collected into the water and due to radioactive materials being significantly denser than water they stay where they fall or are washed away. In fact the largest collection of uranium is found in, guess where? The Oceans. Then you have to account for the half-life of an individual particle. If physics operated the way you thought it did Hiroshima and Nagasaki would still be glowing like the sun, whereas in reality the radiation levels had fallen back down to below the background radiation level (IE the level of radiation that occurs naturally) by the late fifties.

Cancer rates are higher today because we live significantly longer and are exposed to radiation levels and toxins for far longer than our predecessors were. It has nothing to do with nuclear testing except in very specific cases.

the 'pro-tip' is ignornant to the physics in more than one level.

For example; the energy released of a detonation imposes to the mass within the exposed environment.

The energy as in moving particles are just a portion of the energy in wavelengths.

the mass captures the energy by exposure at each moment in time and of each converted wavelength, upon each layer of exposure.

That energy has exposed the atmosphere with 'vapor' of many combinations of mass, irradiated under the magnetosphere and has been circling the earth for generations now.


if you would like some lessons in science. Please go to the science section and we can talk a bit.

"Evil" is a human concept, which exists in that sense without God the same way anything exists without God. God is another human concept of course.

how can evil exist without you?

Originally Posted by gophangover

Yeah yeah, I know, there's no such thing as evil according to atheists. So when a child gets raped and murdered, it's just one of their friends having a good time. There's no such thing as rape or murder either, right?

yeah yeah god is everywhere and just watches and does nothing as that 'evil' happens?

what would you say about someone that stood and watched and did nothing?

can that kinda god exist?

Originally Posted by FreshAir

yeah yeah god is everywhere and just watches and does nothing as that 'evil' happens?

what would you say about someone that stood and watched and did nothing?

can that kinda god exist?

Sigh,...evil doesn't just happen, it a karmic reaction. It's not God's fault that someone chooses stupidity. Ignorance is not knowing, stupid is refusing to learn. The ignorant then say, "Oh God, help me!" and the stupid say, "I hate God for doing this to me!"

Originally Posted by gophangover

Sigh,...evil doesn't just happen, it a karmic reaction. It's not God's fault that someone chooses stupidity. Ignorance is not knowing, stupid is refusing to learn. The ignorant then say, "Oh God, help me!" and the stupid say, "I hate God for doing this to me!"

I wonder what you're trying to say with this. I believe Karma to some degree - in the sense that the energies you project will have a profound affect on your experience in life, but I don't think evil can be defined as purely a "Karmic reaction." You're not saying that everything that can happen to a person happens deservedly so?

Originally Posted by JohnConstantine

I wonder what you're trying to say with this. I believe Karma to some degree - in the sense that the energies you project will have a profound affect on your experience in life, but I don't think evil can be defined as purely a "Karmic reaction." You're not saying that everything that can happen to a person happens deservedly so?

Had Lucifer not "CHOSEN" evil, it wouldn't be an issue. Had Adam and Eve not fell for the lie, it would not be an issue. No matter what happens to anyone, it goes back to the karma of those two actions. Sucks, don't it.

Originally Posted by gophangover

Had Lucifer not "CHOSEN" evil, it wouldn't be an issue. Had Adam and Eve not fell for the lie, it would not be an issue. No matter what happens to anyone, it goes back to the karma of those two actions. Sucks, don't it.

Ah I see! Of course, now it makes perfect sense. It looks like one of those indissoluble, mystical Greek myths by which we are all expected to believe, but who am I to question such a succint explanation, other than a born sinner