Thread: The Catholic Church is a criminal organization...

Originally Posted by Anobsitar

Let me say it in this way: If an Englishman lets someone ran into the own knive, then the victim has to pay rent for the knive. If the victim rans 2 or 3 times into the knive again then s/he has to pay 4 to 9 times as much.

http://youtu.be/5pQVuYbo-Q4

So you are a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing racist. Thanks for letting me know.

Originally Posted by BFSmith@764

Of course there was one Church and if you study the Bible you would see that they were the first Jewish Christians, whom kept the Sabbath. And the Roman Catholic Church has never observed the Sabbath, but it condemned those who refused to come under banner, and persecuted Sabbath keeping Christians by calling them Judaizers. So can you provide any historical evidence that those they called Judaizers or even the COG was ever part of the Catholic Church?

As far as the Bible is concern, that two was written by Jewish Christians who observed the seventh day Sabbath.

I also observe the sabbath. In case you did not realise there was made a new covenant. Tell me do you also think everyone should be circumsised?. The new Sabbath is on Sunday the day of the resurrection. Do you also only eat the meat Jews eat?.

Originally Posted by Doctor Syn

So you are a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing racist. Thanks for letting me know.

My pleasure.

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Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd

Remember, the Jews collaborated with the muslims to conquer Spain and they fought alongside the muslims against the Christians until Ferdinand & Isabella kicked both of them out of Spain.

But what would the Americans say if the red indians would kick them out of the USA in the year 2500? "Go back to India!"?

It's often very diffcult to say what was really good or what was really bad in history. The Sephardim were able to live with Muslim as Jews - but were not able to live with "Christians" as Jews. By the way: the people in former times often used a violent speach, a brave heart and soft methods. The people today are using often a friendly speach and violent methods without any heart - but seem to feel always as if they would be the best human beings ever had existed.

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Originally Posted by Sean Michael

I also observe the sabbath. In case you did not realise there was made a new covenant. Tell me do you also think everyone should be circumsised?

All I said was the first Christians observed the Sabbath I never said they commanded circumcision.

Originally Posted by Sean Michael

The new Sabbath is on Sunday the day of the resurrection. Do you also only eat the meat Jews eat?.

So does that mean you don't do any work on Sunday the same way it was forbidden on the Old Testament Sabbath?

Originally Posted by BFSmith@764

All I said was the first Christians observed the Sabbath ...

If, why?

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Originally Posted by BFSmith@764

All I said was the first Christians observed the Sabbath I never said they commanded circumcision.

I also observe the sabbath on a 'Sunday'.


So does that mean you don't do any work on Sunday the same way it was forbidden on the Old Testament Sabbath?

That is correct I avoid all unneccessary work on a Sunday. If your work demands it you must work and there is exemptions, like if you are a surgeon, or a nurse, policeman. I work in a plant that makes diesel generators, and I also have a small hobby farm. If say the animals needed help on a Sunday I cannot hold of to Monday, there is some instnces when we must make exceptions, and Jesus even spoke of this.

Originally Posted by Sean Michael

That is correct I avoid all unneccessary work on a Sunday. If your work demands it you must work and there is exemptions, like if you are a surgeon, or a nurse, policeman. I work in a plant that makes diesel generators, and I also have a small hobby farm. If say the animals needed help on a Sunday I cannot hold of to Monday, there is some instnces when we must make exceptions, and Jesus even spoke of this.

Then you’re the only person I know who observe Sunday and don't do any personal work on it. However, there is no scripture in the Bible that tells us that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday; it's just a personal choice.

Originally Posted by BFSmith@764

Then you’re the only person I know who observe Sunday and don't do any personal work on it. However, there is no scripture in the Bible that tells us that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday; it's just a personal choice.

It is not a personal choice. The earliest Christians believed the new Sabbath was changed to a Sunday it is documented. You are correct there is no word of it in the Bible, but I do not rely on Sola Scriptura. Tell me what does the Bible say about IVF, or contraception, embroyonic stem cell research, we need the authority of the Church to expound on these types of things. God did not leave us to try and figure out everything from the good book on our own merit. He founded also the institution of the Church, which canexpound and clarify things as the world moves on and changes.

Oh, by the way most proper practising Catholic observe avoiding unneccassary work on a Sunday. Many cradle Catholics do not know their faith properly and are badly catechised. I am trying to learn and seek out more of the truth that is my faith.