Thread: I don't believe in God, gods, or a god named God...

Originally Posted by Anobsitar

I have a little difficulties to understand this words. But indeed the big bang theory tells us that the world started in a first second - and the expansion of the universe tells us that we can travel all around everywhere in the universe and it will always expand in all directions - so we are always in the middle. On the other side we can see lots of causes coming from nowhere in the vaccuum. I call this sometimes "the echo of the creation". But there are also other questions: deepest temperature - why? - highest speed - why? ... limits - why? ... Why are structures existing? - Why is something and not only nothing? ...

http://youtu.be/Y0TfkrCKWAs

We, as in Earth are always in the middle? Are you sure?

I will neeed some servants in the Kingdom. I can take my pick of this litter.

Originally Posted by 4Horsemen

I will neeed some servants in the Kingdom. I can take my pick of this litter.

Who says you're going to the Kingdom?

Originally Posted by doombug

We, as in Earth are always in the middle? Are you sure?

The universe expands from every point in all directions - so every point in the universe is always in the middle. If you travel to the very famous planet Qrgklxtrspüfgh in the Andromeda galaxy then you will see that everything expands in the same way as if you would be on the planet earth. Everywhere it's the same. It's diffcult - or even impossible - to imagine something what has only middles and no boundary - that's all. Not to forget: Yes! - If the big bang theory is true then I'm sure that the Earth is always in the middle.

http://youtu.be/O2SR_P-_98s

Originally Posted by Bow To The Robots

Nonsense. We all have to follow the rules, regardless of our beliefs. In some cases we, as a society, make exceptions--we should not in my view. We should have the same set of rules for everyone. Period. You are free to believe whatever you wish to believe, and I will respect and even defend that right. But you still have to follow the rules. Not to put too fine a point on it, but I don't think a private employer should be compelled to provide anything to the employee as that should be a private relationship between the consenting parties. That said, the rules are the rules. Fight to change them if they displease you, but don't fight to make exceptions because then the rules become fairly meaningless.

Why should anyone accept the rule of any other individual or society, if they are only human and there is no God. One mans opinion is as good as the next mans. If I believe I should rob steal and murder, why should I listen to anyone who opposes this position. I can have any sense of morality I like. Why should we even care about future generations, or anything accept or own selfish desires. God makes sense and is perfectly rational, without God there is no reason or rational for our morality.

Originally Posted by doombug

The Big Bang says otherwise and if there wasn't a first cause then we will never understand it. Cause and effect is a basic scientific principle so if there was no first cause the that undermines what we know about our universe.

The Big Bang theory is a religious theory of creation dreamed up by a Catholic priest. It's no more valid than any other creation theory. In some respects it's even less valid.

Originally Posted by Sean Michael

Why should anyone accept the rule of any other individual or society, if they are only human and there is no God. One mans opinion is as good as the next mans. If I believe I should rob steal and murder, why should I listen to anyone who opposes this position. I can have any sense of morality I like. Why should we even care about future generations, or anything accept or own selfish desires. God makes sense and is perfectly rational, without God there is no reason or rational for our morality.

no god dosent make sense your listing why you want peapole to belive in your god and to belive its threats and rewards are the basis of morality dosent make it so

Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd

The Big Bang theory is a religious theory of creation dreamed up by a Catholic priest. It's no more valid than any other creation theory. In some respects it's even less valid.

Lol...I bet Stephen Hawking would be surprised to hear that.

Originally Posted by Anobsitar

The universe expands from every point in all directions - so every point in the universe is always in the middle. If you travel to the very famous planet Qrgklxtrspüfgh in the Andromeda galaxy then you will see that everything expands in the same way as if you would be on the planet earth. Everywhere it's the same. It's diffcult - or even impossible - to imagine something what has only middles and no boundary - that's all. Not to forget: Yes! - If the big bang theory is true then I'm sure that the Earth is always in the middle.

http://youtu.be/O2SR_P-_98s

I get what you are saying. It makes sense. You are speaking in reference of the universe as a whole.

Originally Posted by Anobsitar

The universe expands from every point in all directions - so every point in the universe is always in the middle. If you travel to the very famous planet Qrgklxtrspüfgh in the Andromeda galaxy then you will see that everything expands in the same way as if you would be on the planet earth. Everywhere it's the same. It's diffcult - or even impossible - to imagine something what has only middles and no boundary - that's all. Not to forget: Yes! - If the big bang theory is true then I'm sure that the Earth is always in the middle.

http://youtu.be/O2SR_P-_98s

In order to be able to state you are in the middle of something you need to define at least three reference points and last I checked, nobody has found a single edge of the universe let alone the three necessary to state being in the middle position.