Thread: God or Jesus ?

Originally Posted by elijah

Wouldn't that be modalism?

Sorry, e-, but missed your post.


modalism
the theological doctrine that the members of the Trinity are not three separate persons but modes or forms of God’s self-expression.

Good word to know...

Originally Posted by Wolverine

There is a problem with believing they are one.

God creates a set of rules, he sends himself to be born on earth, teach a series of morals that contradict his own rules, and sacrifices himself to convince himself to change the rules that he created.

It does not even remotely make sense.

We seem to see everything in the physical sense. A body is made up of different parts and every part has a function. We can't call our foot a hand and our tail the head. Maybe the 3 are one entity in the same sense of the collective body? This is probably a discussion for the believer I suppose!

Originally Posted by Marlowe

OMG, here's another one believing in the mathematical absurdity , 3 x 1 = 1 .

I need a beer.

Humans invariably discount something if it don't make sense! An egg has an albumin, yolk and shell....which we call an egg!

Originally Posted by Marlowe

Perhaps simple to the simple minded but not a good analogy - cos according to the bible the three of them was at the same time in different forms , in different places. For exampla how many hats did your god wear before he seduced an innocent virgin . ?


Read - Zeus's night with Semele , mother of good Lord Dionysus. Same script - plagiarised by bible writers .






Nah , I just prefer rational explanations instead of unsubstantiable nonsense.


God, the creator of the universe , hated the world so much that he sent his only son so that whoever does not believe in him will perish and be denied eternal life.-- (God's Ex-wife)





I'll go for another beer.




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It's probably a useless argument to argue with a non believer, nothing will make sense I suppose. Anyway, God is said to be spiritual, the impregnating of Mary was not described in a physical sense but a spiritual sense. She has always been referred to as the virgin Mary.

Originally Posted by OverDrive

Sorry, e-, but missed your post.


modalism
the theological doctrine that the members of the Trinity are not three separate persons but modes or forms of God’s self-expression.



Good word to know...

I'm not a modalist. I believe The Godhead consists of three seperate but equal persons.

Originally Posted by BFSmith@764

You should study the Bible.....here are scriptures showing that Jesus was the God of the Old Testament.

to this day, i still read it but have studied for a couple 3 decades on many diadems over men

It was Jesus who created all things.

that's a lie

All things were made by Jesus who is called the Word.

the injil

new message

John 14:15 `If ye love me, my commands keep,

16 and I will ask the Father, and another Comforter He will give to you, that he may remain with you -- to the age

jesus said another is coming, just like john said.

he said he would ask.

20 in that day ye shall know that I [am] in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you;

do you know that yet?

29 `And now I have said [it] to you before it come to pass, that when it may come to pass, ye may believe;

30 I will no more talk much with you, for the ruler of this world doth come, and in me he hath nothing;

he was right.............

Do you know why Jesus is called the Word?

the name or 'word' to describe god is the unspoken.


12 and his eyes [are] as a flame of fire, and upon his head [are] many diadems -- having a name written that no one hath known, except himself,

13 and he is arrayed with a garment covered with blood, and his name is called, The Word of God.


and guess whom you are arguing with?

Jesus likens Himself to a hen who gathers her chicks but He said they were not willing.

my name means 'the gathering'.................... ...... the feast..............

Jesus was the one that took cared of the Children of Israel.

israel is a (*)(*)(*)(*) hole of blood and jesus did nothing for israel as israel never existed until UN Res 181.

jerusalem is babilu of the literature (gate of the god) (babylon)

under that dome of the rock is 'the hill" they (three religions of abraham) are fighting over and causes ww3


the concept of mankind seeking IS Real, is what the name of god enables. ie.... to know truth, then being of 'is real' is everywhere you are.

Originally Posted by truthvigilante

It's probably a useless argument to argue with a non believer, nothing will make sense I suppose. Anyway, God is said to be spiritual, the impregnating of Mary was not described in a physical sense but a spiritual sense. She has always been referred to as the virgin Mary.

what spiritual 'sense' ?

test tube babies are the method that mankind can conceive a child and the women can still be untouched.

mary was no virgin, just because a religious wingnut says so.

I dislike posts that represent lies.

how about you?

Originally Posted by elijah

I'm not a modalist. I believe The Godhead consists of three seperate but equal persons.

now they are persons?

Originally Posted by Bishadi

what spiritual 'sense' ?

test tube babies are the method that mankind can conceive a child and the women can still be untouched.

mary was no virgin, just because a religious wingnut says so.

I dislike posts that represent lies.

how about you?

Right......and you were there so you know!!........are you really God Bishadi?? I always wanted to ask you a question God - did your son really sleep with a prostitute, and was he drunk?? Hey everyone, Bishadi is God and he has all the answers to our question!! Hallelujah!!

Originally Posted by truthvigilante

Right......and you were there so you know!!

that's a great point. Yes, you and I were there. our fathers/mothers since the beginning of time are whom i represent, and you too.

ie... during them days, my light, your light, everyones light, was alive within the lives of our predecessors. our lineage is them, who walked in the days of old, in some part of the world or many.

Got a problem with that fact?

are you light upon mass. is that body you exist in, spiritually, electric and magnetic fields in perpendicular planes (perfect cross), alive and aware that you are?

Have you ever wondered what the life of your existence is?

would it be a revealing to your whole line of lives, to know itself?

nothing magical about the word enabling.

merry xmas