Thread: God or Jesus ?

Originally Posted by Bishadi

to this day, i still read it but have studied for a couple 3 decades on many diadems over men that's a lie

the injil

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jesus said another is coming, just like john said.

he said he would ask.

do you know that yet?



he was right.............




the name or 'word' to describe god is the unspoken.


12 and his eyes [are] as a flame of fire, and upon his head [are] many diadems -- having a name written that no one hath known, except himself,

13 and he is arrayed with a garment covered with blood, and his name is called, The Word of God.


and guess whom you are arguing with?





my name means 'the gathering'.................... ...... the feast..............



israel is a (*)(*)(*)(*) hole of blood and jesus did nothing for israel as israel never existed until UN Res 181.

jerusalem is babilu of the literature (gate of the god) (babylon)

under that dome of the rock is 'the hill" they (three religions of abraham) are fighting over and causes ww3


the concept of mankind seeking IS Real, is what the name of god enables. ie.... to know truth, then being of 'is real' is everywhere you are.

I was hoping and would have loved to discuss this further with you but with the kind of attitude like the one that I boldfaced I'm not going to bother....in fact, I won't be discussing anything with you from here on.

Originally Posted by BFSmith@764

I was hoping and would have loved to discuss this further with you but with the kind of attitude like the one that I boldfaced I'm not going to bother....in fact, I won't be discussing anything with you from here on.

perhaps best for you

as i will crush just about any liar~

Originally Posted by Bishadi

perhaps best for you

as i will crush just about any liar~

Whatever you want to believe it's not important to me either way.......Jesus was called worst than that.

Originally Posted by BFSmith@764

That is a silly question. Because it is like saying what fruit do you like orange or orange juice? Jesus is the God spoken of in the Old Testament; He is the same one that led the Children of Israel out of Egypt.

yeah I can see how silly.The reason the Jews and century upon Millennia of
Rabbi have spent literally their entire life as have Great Theologians like
St.Thomas Acquinas and countless others studying and embroiled over the
monumental difference between God and Jesus and it's dynamic import.
Having been schooled in Theology and then Philosophy on my own,I find it
fascinating the ease in which those with NO schooling or study can reach such
near juvenile conclusions.In my experience the more one has studied the subject matter
the less they are prone to reach cushy,unauthorized conclusion.

Originally Posted by Bishadi

that's a great point. Yes, you and I were there. our fathers/mothers since the beginning of time are whom i represent, and you too.

That's a lie!

Originally Posted by Bishadi

i.e.... during them days, my light, your light, everyones light, was alive within the lives of our predecessors. our lineage is them, who walked in the days of old, in some part of the world or many.

That's a lie!

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Got a problem with that fact?

I just don't like lies

Originally Posted by Bishadi

are you light upon mass. is that body you exist in, spiritually, electric and magnetic fields in perpendicular planes (perfect cross), alive and aware that you are?

That's a lie!

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Have you ever wondered what the life of your existence is?

it is all lies!

Originally Posted by Bishadi

would it be a revealing to your whole line of lives, to know itself?

not, because it is a lie!

Originally Posted by Bishadi

nothing magical about the word enabling.

merry xmas

And that's a big fat lie too! I love crushing lies!

Originally Posted by Foolardi

yeah I can see how silly.The reason the Jews and century upon Millennia of
Rabbi have spent literally their entire life as have Great Theologians like
St.Thomas Acquinas and countless others studying and embroiled over the
monumental difference between God and Jesus and it's dynamic import.
Having been schooled in Theology and then Philosophy on my own,I find it
fascinating the ease in which those with NO schooling or study can reach such
near juvenile conclusions.In my experience the more one has studied the subject matter
the less they are prone to reach cushy,unauthorized conclusion.

Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice and follow me." So those who follow what men teach will not hear Jesus' voice just as the religious men in Jesus' day could not understood and hated Him and His words.......they thought they knew the truth because they were educated in the law, yet they failed to recognized the very God who gave them the Ten Commandments and who lead there forefather's out of Egypt.

Originally Posted by truthvigilante

That's a lie!

That's a lie!

I just don't like lies

That's a lie!

it is all lies!

not, because it is a lie!

And that's a big fat lie too! I love crushing lies!

another one, exposed



Often the best examples of anti christ can be found by observing christians.




that should be a bumper sticker

Originally Posted by BFSmith@764

Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice and follow me."

are you sure jesus said that.

I dont think he was whispering in the ear of sheep. Preachers, perhaps!

So those who follow what men teach will not hear Jesus' voice

not a one you ever know has heard jesus. Unless you mean the guy trimming the hedges down the block.

anti christs make up stuff like that, and morons try to believe it

just as the religious men in Jesus' day could not understood and hated Him and His words.....

so now, while he was a live, men could not hear him, and yet now that he is no longer capable of telling you that you are misleading, you can hear him?

jesus aint talking to no one

..they thought they knew the truth because they were educated in the law,

kind of like what you are trying to say, right. You are educated on what he wants, no one else can hear him, but you can, right?

yet they failed to recognized the very God who gave them the Ten Commandments and who lead there forefather's out of Egypt.

book of the dead, written about 2 thousand years before any abrahamic religions, has the commands

and it was ahkenatan that created the schism in egypt to begin monotheism.

Unless a pharaoh is your god, you perhaps should read a bit more before posting nonsense.

Originally Posted by Bishadi

are you sure jesus said that.

And by whose authority would you be saying otherwise?

Originally Posted by Bishadi

I dont think he was whispering in the ear of sheep. Preachers, perhaps!

Those who hear His voice knows and understands what He meant and those who do not will not........nothing has changed since Jesus physically walked the streets of Jerusalem.

Originally Posted by Bishadi

not a one you ever know has heard jesus. Unless you mean the guy trimming the hedges down the block.

You are clueless as to what Jesus meant.

Originally Posted by Bishadi

anti christs make up stuff like that, and morons try to believe it.

I would suggest taking a look in the mirror.

Originally Posted by Bishadi

so now, while he was a live, men could not hear him, and yet now that he is no longer capable of telling you that you are misleading, you can hear him?

jesus aint talking to no one.

Because you are clueless about what Jesus meant the same way much of what Jesus said those who were not His disciples did not understood what He said.

Originally Posted by Bishadi

kind of like what you are trying to say, right. You are educated on what he wants, no one else can hear him, but you can, right?

You sure don't.

Originally Posted by Bishadi

book of the dead, written about 2 thousand years before any abrahamic religions, has the commands

and it was ahkenatan that created the schism in egypt to begin monotheism.

Unless a pharaoh is your god, you perhaps should read a bit more before posting nonsense.

I would be a fool to listen to you......but what you believe is fine with me.

Originally Posted by BFSmith@764

And by whose authority would you be saying otherwise?

what?

what authority is a manmade belief? Bible is made by man which itself is telling people god did it.

Those who hear His voice knows and understands what He meant and those who do not will not.

and you aint heard a word of jesus. Perhaps read of stories worth of or even a recorded interpretation but yu aint heard with your ears, a dam thing from jesus mouth. (a fact).......

You are clueless as to what Jesus meant.

i can read

Mark 10:17 And as he is going forth into the way, one having run and having kneeled to him, was questioning him, `Good teacher, what may I do, that life age-during I may inherit?' (man asked a point blank question, per se bible)

18 And Jesus said to him, `Why me dost thou call good? no one [is] good except One -- God; (i believe that)

19 the commands thou hast known: Thou mayest not commit adultery, Thou mayest do no murder, Thou mayest not steal, Thou mayest not bear false witness, Thou mayest not defraud, Honour thy father and mother, and BFSmith@764 stop it and grow up.'

Because you are clueless about what Jesus meant the same way much of what Jesus said those who were not His disciples did not understood what He said.

i bet the disciples may have heard jesus, and i bet it was in a stern manner (the bible said he said): Matt 16:20 Then did he charge his disciples that they may say to no one that he is Jesus the Christ.

he probably should have added, if you fools even mention the combining of my name with the nasty so b that is going to reveal the name of the boss, it will make millions, like BFSmith@764 to false witness and harm others with conveying misdirection.

He could have told them, no matter what, every one of you can walk on water, if you freeze it first. It's still h20/water even when frozen.

I would be a fool to listen to you......but what you believe is fine with me.

i dont even listen to me......

You have to do what is right. No god, no satan, no spagetti monster or flying unicorn is going to make you do anything

if what you are learning is assisting your mind to evolve with truth, i could care less if you believed 'god himself' told you what is real, if the knowledge assists life to continue and be fruitful tomorrow, then i could care less about being namesaked

It is one of the items i love about the concept of the name of god, if that 'he' wanted people to know, he could have signed the material himself.

The only way you will ever know 'his' name is to care that much to learn.