Thread: God or Jesus ?

I am seriously thinking that If I was forced to choose I'd have to say God.
Being raised a diehard Catholic,I also studied Theolgy in Catholic Prep School.
The Eastern religions and well as many Theologians and Philosophers.I actually
consider myself a sort of novice Philosopher.
I respect the Jewish Faith more so than Bible-thumping Southern Baptists.
Because Jewish Rabbi's are far more knowledgable and reaching in their ability
to interpret God and his Dominion.I sometimes weary towards Jesus freaks.
Jesus freaks or those Protestant faiths who dwell exclusively in the Bible
are not rational at times.I need the rationality of a Saint Thomas Acquinas or
Augustian. Immensely great thinkers of Christlike Grace within humanity.
I now believe that God is foremost with regards to worship over Jesus.
Like The Jewish faith has always held.God is Creator and hence created his own Son.
Jesus did not Create the earth.Or the heavens.Or the Universe.
Jesus helped to create an understanding on Earth as to how magnificient and
ALL Powerful the Father of all Fathers or God was,is and shall remain forevermore.

Originally Posted by Foolardi

I am seriously thinking that If I was forced to choose I'd have to say God.
Being raised a diehard Catholic,I also studied Theolgy in Catholic Prep School.
The Eastern religions and well as many Theologians and Philosophers.I actually
consider myself a sort of novice Philosopher.
I respect the Jewish Faith more so than Bible-thumping Southern Baptists.
Because Jewish Rabbi's are far more knowledgable and reaching in their ability
to interpret God and his Dominion.I sometimes weary towards Jesus freaks.
Jesus freaks or those Protestant faiths who dwell exclusively in the Bible
are not rational at times.I need the rationality of a Saint Thomas Acquinas or
Augustian. Immensely great thinkers of Christlike Grace within humanity.
I now believe that God is foremost with regards to worship over Jesus.
Like The Jewish faith has always held.God is Creator and hence created his own Son.
Jesus did not Create the earth.Or the heavens.Or the Universe.
Jesus helped to create an understanding on Earth as to how magnificient and
ALL Powerful the Father of all Fathers or God was,is and shall remain forevermore.

The holy trinity suggests they are one. Jesus is God, God is Jesus, the Holy spirit is Jesus and God.

Originally Posted by Foolardi

I am seriously thinking that If I was forced to choose I'd have to say God.
Being raised a diehard Catholic,I also studied Theolgy in Catholic Prep School.
The Eastern religions and well as many Theologians and Philosophers.I actually
consider myself a sort of novice Philosopher.
I respect the Jewish Faith more so than Bible-thumping Southern Baptists.
Because Jewish Rabbi's are far more knowledgable and reaching in their ability
to interpret God and his Dominion.I sometimes weary towards Jesus freaks.
Jesus freaks or those Protestant faiths who dwell exclusively in the Bible
are not rational at times.I need the rationality of a Saint Thomas Acquinas or
Augustian. Immensely great thinkers of Christlike Grace within humanity.
I now believe that God is foremost with regards to worship over Jesus.
Like The Jewish faith has always held.God is Creator and hence created his own Son.
Jesus did not Create the earth.Or the heavens.Or the Universe.
Jesus helped to create an understanding on Earth as to how magnificient and
ALL Powerful the Father of all Fathers or God was,is and shall remain forevermore.

so let's clean it up.

meaning you have resolved that the 'boss' is just the 'it' or the one as being 'dah boss' (no others, i like it)

ok.....

So adam was born of the dust, mother nature (god itself, the garden), so was jesus, einstein, newton, you and I.

We are lives living in the same body of 'da boss' as adam, jesus, einstein and the most merciful YOU (i know you got it, but you may not know it just yet).

So homage to 'the garden' dont make sense but responsibility to our very life provider, is THAT IMPORTANT.

And all the children of tomorrow, will be our lives (procreations) of today, living into the morrow, in the body of god, in his existence, under his trinity (mass, energy, time), and in 'christ' (truth of what is real), then we are living is fact, enabling life to live, by choice.

"WE" can become one, with god (nature) by knowing itself and 'our' capabilities (in christ; pursuit of truth).

'we' all can

'we' are all capable

and when you bump into some prik with this kind of talk........

realize, it is just a gift from (the 'gods') (knowledge of mankind by standing on the shoulders of giants) what has been learned


nature is our mother/father/provider/beginning-ending/everything.................... ..

and to know that is to return to 'him' (itself)

Originally Posted by truthvigilante

The holy trinity suggests they are one. Jesus is God, God is Jesus, the Holy spirit is Jesus and God.

There is a problem with believing they are one.

God creates a set of rules, he sends himself to be born on earth, teach a series of morals that contradict his own rules, and sacrifices himself to convince himself to change the rules that he created.

It does not even remotely make sense.

Originally Posted by Wolverine

There is a problem with believing they are one.

God creates a set of rules, he sends himself to be born on earth, teach a series of morals that contradict his own rules, and sacrifices himself to convince himself to change the rules that he created.

It does not even remotely make sense.

now 'why didnt i think of that?'

Originally Posted by Wolverine

There is a problem with believing they are one.

God creates a set of rules, he sends himself to be born on earth, teach a series of morals that contradict his own rules, and sacrifices himself to convince himself to change the rules that he created.

It does not even remotely make sense.

According to the New Testament the invisible sky God didn't give anyone any rules (the Law).

Galatians 3:19-20 (CEV) = What is the use of the Law? It was given later to show that we sin. But it was only supposed to last until the coming of that descendant who was given the promise. In fact, angels gave the Law to Moses, and he gave it to the people. There is only one God, and the Law did not come directly from him.

Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd

According to the New Testament the invisible sky God didn't give anyone any rules (the Law).

Galatians 3:19-20 (CEV) = What is the use of the Law? It was given later to show that we sin. But it was only supposed to last until the coming of that descendant who was given the promise. In fact, angels gave the Law to Moses, and he gave it to the people. There is only one God, and the Law did not come directly from him.

and that is by,

the wyrd of gawd.......( iused a small g for humility, of course)

Originally Posted by Bishadi

and that is by,

the wyrd of gawd.......( iused a small g for humility, of course)

The Old Testament has a funny joke about the Law.

Ezekiel 20:25-26 (CEB) = I also issued regulations that were not good and case laws by which they could not live. I defiled them with their very gifts when they offered up all their oldest children. They were supposed to be so horrified that they would acknowledge that I am the Lord.

Exodus 22:28-30 (CEV) = 28 Don’t speak evil of me or of the ruler of your people. Don’t fail to give me the offerings of grain and wine that belong to me. Dedicate to me your first-born sons and the first-born of your cattle and sheep. Let the animals stay with their mothers for seven days, then on the eighth day give them to me, your God.

Originally Posted by Foolardi

God or Jesus ?

That is a silly question. Because it is like saying what fruit do you like orange or orange juice? Jesus is the God spoken of in the Old Testament; He is the same one that led the Children of Israel out of Egypt.

Originally Posted by BFSmith@764

That is a silly question. Because it is like saying what fruit do you like orange or orange juice? Jesus is the God spoken of in the Old Testament; He is the same one that led the Children of Israel out of Egypt.

that's a bunch of crap


jesus had nothing to do with OLD testament.

jesus was not the guy of revelation, daniel, ezek..... ie.... the messiah to open up a can of whoop-azz, was not jesus.


you know it, i know it and the majority on the earth know it

ie....... liars are still walking around and there will be nothing but dead liars left, when its hammer time!

for example: you wont be here, when the job is done