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Thread: In Christian theology, is Satan as powerful as God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreshAir View Post
    in some versions he is Jesus's brother
    In some versions of what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic View Post
    WRONG, homosexual feelings are satanic. They mislead people into SIN, sex for pleasure, instead of sex for PROCREATION. Do you know the difference????

    NO, you're a typical Lib with blinders on. You believe sex is for pleasure, like an animal would, compared to using your tools for the PURPOSE God granted you them.
    Wrong....1500 species practice homosexuality. It is nature way of stopping over population.

    No, YOU are a typical theist brainwashed into believing bull(*)(*)(*)(*), and have lost all culpability for thinking for yourself.
    rstones199 - The Voice Of Reason!
    When you say 'god', which one are you referring to?

    I'm not saying let's kill all the stupid people, I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic View Post
    Admitting your SIN is the first step.
    SIN = made up word by christian nut-jobs to tell one person to another that they do not approve of ones actions.

    But wait, this gets better! They even have a way to rid of ones 'SIN". Make up a fairy-tale and say if you accept this fairy-tale in your life, you will be saved from sin!!!

    This is akin to me stabbing you on the leg, then saying I have a bandage here that can save you.

    Thiestoholics......the first step, is to walk away from the fairy-tales.
    rstones199 - The Voice Of Reason!
    When you say 'god', which one are you referring to?

    I'm not saying let's kill all the stupid people, I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CKW View Post
    No. God is in total control. No worries.
    phewwww. Does this mean no more hurricanes, tornadoes. earthquakes, rapists, murders, etc, etc, etc?
    rstones199 - The Voice Of Reason!
    When you say 'god', which one are you referring to?

    I'm not saying let's kill all the stupid people, I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraspingforPeace View Post
    Reading Paine's Age of Reason today and how he criticizes the Bible as giving Satan as much power as God. Paine described how in Greek mythos, Typhon was trapped under Mt. Etna by Zeus and how this is very similar to God putting Satan into the Pit. However, Paine says that the Bible does the TRUE God an injustice because Satan is given almost as much power as God. Instead of being trapped in the Pit like Typhon under Mt. Etna, Satan escapes the Pit and is given free reign in Eden and then the rest of the world afterwards. Satan essentially becomes an omnipotent being that constantly forces God's hand and eventually forced God to come down to Earth as Jesus to fix the problem that Satan originally started.

    Now, obviously there are many people who take Genesis as an allegory so this question is moreso for the people who believe in a literal Satan: Is Satan too powerful for God to stop?
    I don't take every thing literal in the Bible but my research qualifies me to address this from the other view points.

    Christians who believe in a literal Satan fall in two camps.

    1. Satan has been allowed rule of this World but must get approval from God before he makes any thing too big happen.
    2. Satan has been allotted a certain amount of time to see how much he can get God's people to turn away.

    To support these views Christians will reference Satan taking Jesus up on top of a mountain and showed him all the Kingdoms of the world and offered to give them all to him if he worshiped him. Satan could not offer what was not his to offer.

    Now there are also non-traditional views as well regarding Satan from the gnostics. Not sure if your interested in them. And there is the other belief that Satan is simply a fallen state, not a entity. When ever some one turns away from God they become satan.

    As far as I know, no one believes Satan is more powerful then God. If you believe in Satan you either believe in a limited power entity or time restricted entity.

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    God and Satan are pure thought control. Wake up, people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rstones199 View Post
    Wrong....1500 species practice homosexuality. It is nature way of stopping over population.

    No, YOU are a typical theist brainwashed into believing bull(*)(*)(*)(*), and have lost all culpability for thinking for yourself.
    You're saying here that whatever happens in the animal population is normal for us? Honosexuality is not the norm in human society. Homosexual behavior is not the norm in the animal kingdom either. Is it normal for us to eat other creatures alive, eat our young, sniff other human beings rear ends? eat placentas? barf up food for your young. Eat poop? Poop in public?

    No. on the contrary. But what homosexuals are saying is that they want to make it normal so that they can indulge in their fleshly sins with no condemnation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndieVisible View Post
    I don't take every thing literal in the Bible but my research qualifies me to address this from the other view points.

    Christians who believe in a literal Satan fall in two camps.

    1. Satan has been allowed rule of this World but must get approval from God before he makes any thing too big happen.
    2. Satan has been allotted a certain amount of time to see how much he can get God's people to turn away.

    To support these views Christians will reference Satan taking Jesus up on top of a mountain and showed him all the Kingdoms of the world and offered to give them all to him if he worshiped him. Satan could not offer what was not his to offer.

    Now there are also non-traditional views as well regarding Satan from the gnostics. Not sure if your interested in them. And there is the other belief that Satan is simply a fallen state, not a entity. When ever some one turns away from God they become satan.

    As far as I know, no one believes Satan is more powerful then God. If you believe in Satan you either believe in a limited power entity or time restricted entity.
    I think it's funny to have New Testament theology tying Satan to the serpent in the Garden of Eden, since that story only ever spoke of the serpent and how it lost its legs! Of course, the entire story was also sky-based, with Virgo and Boötes being Eve and Adam, respectively, and the serpent being Serpens Caput. All of these constellations appear near each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisLed View Post
    You're saying here that whatever happens in the animal population is normal for us? Honosexuality is not the norm in human society. Homosexual behavior is not the norm in the animal kingdom either. Is it normal for us to eat other creatures alive, eat our young, sniff other human beings rear ends? eat placentas? barf up food for your young. Eat poop? Poop in public?

    No. on the contrary. But what homosexuals are saying is that they want to make it normal so that they can indulge in their fleshly sins with no condemnation.
    It's the norm for homosexuals. If it's not the norm for you, fine, don't practice it. End of story..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic View Post
    WRONG, homosexual feelings are satanic. They mislead people into SIN, sex for pleasure, instead of sex for PROCREATION. Do you know the difference????

    NO, you're a typical Lib with blinders on. You believe sex is for pleasure, like an animal would, compared to using your tools for the PURPOSE God granted you them.
    do you know the difference between bisexual and heterosexual or between bisexual and homosexual.. there is a difference

    yes, I believe sex is for pleasure AND procreation, it's not a either or... it's both (do you feel having sex for pleasure is evil?)

    being any of the above is not the work of the devil....


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