Thread: Who Lives? Who Dies? Christ has Revealed that God Doesn't Choose Based on Guilt

Originally Posted by Southern Man

Atheists insist that we prove the existence of God to them as 100% scientific irrefutable truth, yet there is no such thing. Even DNA evidence is always presented as one chance in several million.

We convict criminals on a high legal standard: beyond a reasonable doubt, yet atheists insist on a higher standard; one that doesn't exist.

What makes them so unreasonable and afraid?

I think you have that question aimed wrong.....Whats makes you so afraid that you cling to your faith despite those odds.

I cant say decide one way or the other one the existence of "GOD"... I do believe one thing wholeheartedly though..... Jews... Christians... Muslims... etc.... your all wrong There is just no way a supreme being could be so (*)(*)(*)(*)ed stupid.

If there is a supreme being... It has placed us on a planet that operates on evolution.. we are a step in that evolutionary process. We are here and operate independently of any cosmic mindcontrol or pre-packaged script.

That theater shooteter was a wackjob .. no more.. no less. If your on fire .. god will NOT (*)(*)(*)(*) on you... if I am close by.. I MAY (*)(*)(*)(*) on you by my own free will.

Originally Posted by signcutter

I think you have that question aimed wrong.....Whats makes you so afraid that you cling to your faith despite those odds.

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The odds are heavily in my favor. I like the odds a lot.

Originally Posted by Blackrook

"Are they more guilty than the rest? No, but I assure you all will suffer the same fate if they don't repent."

Originally Posted by Blackrook

The greater tragedy, however, is the damage Holmes did to his own soul.

What damage? All he has to do is repent, apparently.

Originally Posted by Southern Man

Atheists insist that we prove the existence of God to them as 100% scientific irrefutable truth, yet there is no such thing. Even DNA evidence is always presented as one chance in several million.

We convict criminals on a high legal standard: beyond a reasonable doubt, yet atheists insist on a higher standard; one that doesn't exist.

What makes them so unreasonable and afraid?

actually I think they (Atheists) would just be happy with beyond a reasonable doubt

you mean like the world is round or the earth is not the center of the universe... I think history has shown what can happen to people when they tell the truth and it's not always good, so many times people are afraid to tell what they really 'believe' and instead pretend to believe the lie for safety reasons even though there is obviously reasonable doubt


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Originally Posted by FreshAir

"Louie Gohmert: Aurora Shootings Result Of 'Ongoing Attacks On Judeo-Christian Beliefs' "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."

"the shootings were still "a terrorist act" that could have been avoided if the country placed a higher value on God."


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I don't see anything so bad with what he said. Then again i don't hate God.

Originally Posted by MisLed

I don't see anything so bad with what he said. Then again i don't hate God.

I think this republican politician blaming this tragedy on Americans for not being Christian enough is just silly

Mexico is 98% Christian and they still have problems... so why would we be different?


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Originally Posted by FreshAir

actually I think they (Atheists) would just be happy with beyond a reasonable doubt...

That hasn't been my experience. Atheists tend to be committed to their faith. They'll argue that reasonable doubt isn't good enough, or simply be unreasonable with their doubt.

Originally Posted by Blackrook

James Holmes walks into a movie theater and sprays the audience with bullets. Some people die. Some people are wounded. Some people escape injury altogether. And it is random, because Holmes is not there to kill any particular person. He even shot a baby, because he didn't care who he hurt.

Did God choose who lived and who died based on their guilt? Some people think God does this.

Christ addressed this very issue. There was a tower that fell, killing many people.

"Are they more guilty than the rest? No, but I assure you all will suffer the same fate if they don't repent."

The fate Christ was talking about was death --- permanent death of the soul, not the death of the body that is only a transition to a better world.

We do not know the day or the hour when death will come to us. It could be tomorrow. Or it could be 60 years from now. Only God knows, and he isn't telling.

At that moment we have to be ready for death, as we face Christ in his seat of judgment.

How would Christ judge your life?

If you are uncomfortable with the answer to that question, you need to set your priorities straight. You still have time. But NOT forever.

The Problem of Evil comes into play here, your premise of God either contradicts itself or reality.

Originally Posted by Southern Man

Atheists insist that we prove the existence of God to them as 100% scientific irrefutable truth, yet there is no such thing. Even DNA evidence is always presented as one chance in several million.

We convict criminals on a high legal standard: beyond a reasonable doubt, yet atheists insist on a higher standard; one that doesn't exist.

What makes them so unreasonable and afraid?

Nope.

They request evidence that does not have a fallacious premise. God of the Gaps and Argument of Incredibility are both arguments that are based on a fallacy. So what atheists would like to see is evidence that cannot be explained by a natural driverless process.

Originally Posted by Blackrook

The self-creating universe is more unbelievable than the concept of a God who created it.

Also, I have yet to see any atheist provide evidence that their point of view is the correct one.

An expanding singularity makes far more self than a self creating God.

So who created God? If God can be infinite, why is the universe not included in the same rule?