Thread: Slavery in the Bible

Originally Posted by Durandal

How is completely dodging the question/issue a response, "kiddo"?

Because you failed to read it again lazy. Whose fault is that?

Originally Posted by Wolverine

Cite scriptures that contradict those found in the OP and apply specifically to slavery.

Just because Christians do this or that is meaningless.

The premise of the question is a Biblical basis. Address the question.

We are all the children of God --- already addressed when I addressed the history of actual abolition.



So, I am strating to see a pattern.

The ONLY thing on topic is how Christians support slavery, the actual discussion of what and why? A discussion of modern slavery and who supports it? All off topic.

In short, this is not a debate, its a basic smear thread where the only acceptable topic is how Christians obviously support slavery ... even thought it takes an obtuse blind bafoon to even suggest that Christians are, of course, chaining people in our vast feudal castles and plantations to use as slave labor ... from the guy that just jumped off a human sex slave no less? Definitely off topic ...

Originally Posted by Neutral

We are all the children of God --- already addressed when I addressed the history of actual abolition.



So, I am strating to see a pattern.

The ONLY thing on topic is how Christians support slavery, the actual discussion of what and why? A discussion of modern slavery and who supports it? All off topic.

In short, this is not a debate, its a basic smear thread where the only acceptable topic is how Christians obviously support slavery ... even thought it takes an obtuse blind bafoon to even suggest that Christians are, of course, chaining people in our vast feudal castles and plantations to use as slave labor ... from the guy that just jumped off a human sex slave no less? Definitely off topic ...

Um... nope.

I am well aware of slavery in the Old Testament, but that doesn't bother me. What is highly disappointing in my eyes is that the New Testament condones slavery, and you best you can do is offer a blanket statement of God loving all of his children. When the very same God in the very same New Testament condones slavery.

Are you incapable of seeing issues with the argument?

Originally Posted by Wolverine

Um... nope.

I am well aware of slavery in the Old Testament, but that doesn't bother me. What is highly disappointing in my eyes is that the New Testament condones slavery, and you best you can do is offer a blanket statement of God loving all of his children. When the very same God in the very same New Testament condones slavery.

Are you incapable of seeing issues with the argument?

Originally Posted by Wolverine

Um... nope.

I am well aware of slavery in the Old Testament, but that doesn't bother me. What is highly disappointing in my eyes is that the New Testament condones slavery, and you best you can do is offer a blanket statement of God loving all of his children. When the very same God in the very same New Testament condones slavery.

Are you incapable of seeing issues with the argument?

Are you capable of keeping up with an arguement when one is made? Or do you freely admit that your sole intent is to smear people of a different faith?

Tell me kiddo, do you support suicide? Would you recommend suicide as a response to a crime? Raped? Commit suicide?

Well, then maybe you can address the issue that has already been presented, and indeed been presented multiple times to you, about the reality of slavery in the Roman World? Do you not know about the Roman Servile Insurrections? Spartacus? Do you think that Jews, having recently been slaughtered by Roman legions, and about to do so again, might not be so quite to invite suicide in response to Roman injustice?

No, it took a change in mindset, individual and societal - one that clearly in historical terms BEGAN IN THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY.

But that is of no worth mentioning. Nor is the thousands of years of atheist silience in the face of slavery, nor the current complicity of atheists in supporting MODERN slavery. Such facts get in the way of your need to detest Christians, and what are you without that detestation?

Just mean I guess?

Originally Posted by Durandal

Oh look, a personal insult! That must be why Christians support slavery! Yeah atheism! This thread is clearly not about maligning others, its all about a respectful discussion of ... slavery ... but it can only be aimed at Christians and how evil they are in comparison to human smugglers!!!! Yeah atheism!!!!

Originally Posted by Neutral

Are you capable of keeping up with an arguement when one is made? Or do you freely admit that your sole intent is to smear people of a different faith?

Tell me kiddo, do you support suicide? Would you recommend suicide as a response to a crime? Raped? Commit suicide?

Well, then maybe you can address the issue that has already been presented, and indeed been presented multiple times to you, about the reality of slavery in the Roman World? Do you not know about the Roman Servile Insurrections? Spartacus? Do you think that Jews, having recently been slaughtered by Roman legions, and about to do so again, might not be so quite to invite suicide in response to Roman injustice?

No, it took a change in mindset, individual and societal - one that clearly in historical terms BEGAN IN THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY.

But that is of no worth mentioning. Nor is the thousands of years of atheist silience in the face of slavery, nor the current complicity of atheists in supporting MODERN slavery. Such facts get in the way of your need to detest Christians, and what are you without that detestation?

Just mean I guess?

How is Woverine "smearing people of a different faith" by pointing out that the Bible condones slavery cover to cover? It's a simple fact, and it's not his fault if you feel "smeared" by it. If that's how you feel, you might want to re-evaluate your beliefs instead of going on another red herring rampage..

Also, that's some interesting revisionist history you just cooked up regarding Christians and Atheists.

Originally Posted by Neutral

Are you capable of keeping up with an arguement when one is made? Or do you freely admit that your sole intent is to smear people of a different faith?

Tell me kiddo, do you support suicide? Would you recommend suicide as a response to a crime? Raped? Commit suicide?

Well, then maybe you can address the issue that has already been presented, and indeed been presented multiple times to you, about the reality of slavery in the Roman World? Do you not know about the Roman Servile Insurrections? Spartacus? Do you think that Jews, having recently been slaughtered by Roman legions, and about to do so again, might not be so quite to invite suicide in response to Roman injustice?

No, it took a change in mindset, individual and societal - one that clearly in historical terms BEGAN IN THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY.

But that is of no worth mentioning. Nor is the thousands of years of atheist silience in the face of slavery, nor the current complicity of atheists in supporting MODERN slavery. Such facts get in the way of your need to detest Christians, and what are you without that detestation?

Just mean I guess?

I find your charactoristic rants amusing.

They totally avoid inconvenient questions.

Claim: This is disappointing. Jesus condones slavery. Meh. Is there a Biblical basis for the opposition of slavery? A verse that directly contradicts the verses cited?
Rebuttal: Blah blah rant blah rant, the Christians did this blah blah atheists support prostitution because we all know that is what the OP was really asking blah rant rant rant
Claim: The New Testament condones slavery. What specific verse contradicts this claim?
Rebuttal: Blah blah rant atheists are (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s blah blah rant rant God loves all of his children [except for slaves] blah blah The existence of God is unknowable blah rant rant .

Originally Posted by Durandal

How is Woverine "smearing people of a different faith" by pointing out that the Bible condones slavery cover to cover? It's a simple fact, and it's not his fault if you feel "smeared" by it. If that's how you feel, you might want to re-evaluate your beliefs instead of going on another red herring rampage..

By ignoring your support of modern slavery and thousands of years of complicit silence and overt support of slavery from atheists. You did after all point out that atheists have been around since BEFORE Christ right? What were they doing? Nothing.

Yet, this is supposed to be a serious discussion of slavery ... just can't actually apply the standards of judgement to the atheist judger, that would expose the rampat hyocrisy and need to crap on others in order to derive self worth - you know, modern atheism.

I realze its a shock to the athtarded, but when you go after people ... sometimes people go after you in response. Probably shouldn't base your life on hypocritical judgement and double standards ... but you do, and that is why ... ta da ... you are atheist.

THe fact that you support modern slavery, genuinely excuse it and support it, and then want to condemn Christians for not insighting servile insurrection thousands of years ago is not a red herring - its blatant, total hypocrisy. ta da! Modern atheism.

Originally Posted by Neutral

Oh look, a personal insult! That must be why Christians support slavery! Yeah atheism! This thread is clearly not about maligning others, its all about a respectful discussion of ... slavery ... but it can only be aimed at Christians and how evil they are in comparison to human smugglers!!!! Yeah atheism!!!!

Heh. So now the image you posted as an insult against atheists is unacceptable when thrown back at you?

But of course.