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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitt Ryan View Post
    I wholeheartedly agree! But let's not forget, the sun was created along with everything else in existence by the Creator Almighty God!
    Why did it do that exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot2 View Post
    UOTE=trevorw2539;1066977857]I actually believe there was a MAN named Jesus. A Jewish preacher of the time. Study the life of this man without the gospel's addition of 'miracles' etc and the attribute of Divinity given him by the disciples, and we have a Jewish teacher. The Gospel writers have put words in the mouth of this preacher that no Jew wld ever say. Jesus was in the line of Jewish teachers like the 'prophets' of old. His birth narratives are simply a misinterpretations of OT scriptures taken out of context to make him the prophesied Messiah, the misunderstanding of Roman laws, and contradictory. Trial/crucifixion narratives are again contradictory.

    Jesus spoke to the Jews, in Jewish beliefs and parables - often from the OT - and in most cases they understood him. He died for angering the Religious heirarchy.

    I can't imagine that either the Jews or the Romans would be too concerned about a guy teaching "love one another".
    ..

    There's a part of the Babylonian Talmud that talks about Jesus' death a lot.. Its completely different.[/QUOTE]


    I agree. But this was part of the Torah. Jesus would have said it as a good Jewish preacher would have done.


    Leviticus 19:18. Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against a fellow Israelite, but love your neighbour as yourself. I am the Lord.
    " verse 33/34. Do not take advantage of foreigner who lives in your land.Treat them like native born Israelites and love them as you love yourselves.

    The Jewish religious wanted Jesus out of the way. A care less Pilate obliged.The people were well aware the Pharisees cared only for themselves. . The Jewish people were not in on it.
    Last edited by trevorw2539; Jan 08 2017 at 02:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevorw2539 View Post
    I can't imagine that either the Jews or the Romans would be too concerned about a guy teaching "love one another"...

    There's a part of the Babylonian Talmud that talks about Jesus' death a lot.. Its completely different.
    I get it.. thanks. Do you know the Babylonian Talmud and where it talks about stoning Jesus? I know that was written later.





    I agree. But this was part of the Torah. Jesus would have said it as a good Jewish preacher would have done.


    Leviticus 19:18. Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against a fellow Israelite, but love your neighbour as yourself. I am the Lord.
    " verse 33/34. Do not take advantage of foreigner who lives in your land.Treat them like native born Israelites and love them as you love yourselves.

    The Jewish religious wanted Jesus out of the way. A care less Pilate obliged.The people were well aware the Pharisees cared only for themselves. . The Jewish people were not in on it.[/QUOTE]
    Fate says to the warrior, "You cannot withstand the storm".

    The warrior answers back, "I am the storm".

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    Margot quote.
    I get it.. thanks. Do you know the Babylonian Talmud and where it talks about stoning Jesus? I know that was written later.
    Talmud Bavli (Babylon) Sanhedrin 43a

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevorw2539 View Post
    I actually believe there was a MAN named Jesus. A Jewish preacher of the time. Study the
    life of this man without the gospel's addition of 'miracles' etc and the attribute of Divinity
    given him by the disciples, and we have a Jewish teacher.
    Non Christian evidence of Jesus.
    http://coldcasechristianity.com/2014...ide-the-bible/

    Jesus was the Messiah, as the OT has shown us.
    Quote Originally Posted by trevorw2539 View Post
    The Gospel writers have put words in the mouth of this preacher that no Jew would ever say.
    The writers of the Gospels were Jews so yes a Jew would say that.
    Quote Originally Posted by trevorw2539 View Post
    Jesus was in the line of Jewish teachers like the 'prophets' of old. His birth narratives are
    simply a misinterpretations of OT scriptures taken out of context to make him the prophesied
    Messiah, the misunderstanding of Roman laws, and contradictory. Trial/crucifixion narratives
    are again contradictory.
    Wrong. You are taking the Bible out of context. I've pointed this out several times and you
    still ignore the evidence. There are no contradictions or misunderstandings, either.

    You on the other hand claimed to have taken religion courses. I've busted this myth by
    exposing your "word for word" cut and paste in you previous posts that you claim to
    be from your notes. The misunderstandings of the Bible so far have been yours, which
    are evident in every post you make.

    I'm going to have to continue showing you and the posters the errors of your ways.
    We should all be grateful that Bill Clinton's wife will never become president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevorw2539 View Post
    Margot quote.

    Talmud Bavli (Babylon) Sanhedrin 43a
    The Babylonian Talmus also records Jesus' performing miracles.

    Thallus is another non Bible or Chrisitian historian who records Jesus' miracles.
    Last edited by Prunepicker; Jan 08 2017 at 02:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trevorw2539 View Post
    Margot quote.

    Talmud Bavli (Babylon) Sanhedrin 43a
    Yeah.. that's it..
    Fate says to the warrior, "You cannot withstand the storm".

    The warrior answers back, "I am the storm".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    The Babylonian Talmus also records Jesus' performing miracles.

    Thallus is another non Bible or Chrisitian historian who records Jesus' miracles.
    You may want to check the dating of the Babylonian Talmud... Jesus was gone a couple hundred years. How could they have witnessed Jesus miracles?
    Fate says to the warrior, "You cannot withstand the storm".

    The warrior answers back, "I am the storm".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    Non Christian evidence of Jesus.
    http://coldcasechristianity.com/2014...ide-the-bible/

    Jesus was the Messiah, as the OT has shown us.

    The writers of the Gospels were Jews so yes a Jew would say that.

    Wrong. You are taking the Bible out of context. I've pointed this out several times and you
    still ignore the evidence. There are no contradictions or misunderstandings, either.

    You on the other hand claimed to have taken religion courses. I've busted this myth by
    exposing your "word for word" cut and paste in you previous posts that you claim to
    be from your notes. The misunderstandings of the Bible so far have been yours, which
    are evident in every post you make.

    I'm going to have to continue showing you and the posters the errors of your ways.

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    The Babylon Talmud 43a talks about sorcery, not miracles. There were many sorcerers around. Acts 8.

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