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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    Matthew, Mark and John. They were there and they are very reliable witnesses.

    Provide evidence that they weren't.
    There were no people with those names at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rstones199 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Incorporeal View Post
    I have to throw this in: In verse 3 of genesis 1 the term used is 'light' (singular) whereas in verse 14 the term used is "lights" (plural). What and why is there such a distinction? Two separate events and two different forms of "light". 14 gives the distinction with clarity. The "lights" in 14 are those 'lights' we recognize as sun, moon, stars.. however verse 3 is separated and is not given such clarity. Why? What is that 'light' in verse 3? What is the purpose of that singular form of 'light' in verse 3?
    This is just proof that early man had no freakin clue as too what and how the universe formed, and was simply talking out of their arses.
    Not true, I mean they knew that God created the universe because He told them He was the Creator. And so they knew that the universe had a beginning,...it is clearly written in Scripture.

    We read in Scripture:

    "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."---Genesis 1:1 NLT

    And as we know science has just recently caught up...I mean for a long time these scientists believed that the universe was eternal but thanks to great scientists like Einstein that belief/theory is held no more, they now theorize that the universe had a beginning. It took science several thousands of years after what those desert dwellers had told us all along.

    What is astounding, is people in todays scientific age actually take this crap seriously.
    Well I wouldn't call it what you call it but yes, we believers, we Christians in this scientific age do take our faith in God seriously. I have more faith in God then men of science...why?... you might ask, well it's because men of science are not always right whereas God is always right!
    "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details." ---- Albert Einstein

    "If you study science deep enough and long enough, it will force you to believe in God."---Lord Kelvin (British scientist)

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    [QUOTE=Mitt Ryan;1066990390]Not true, I mean they knew that God created the universe because He told them He was the Creator. And so they knew that the universe had a beginning,...it is clearly written in Scripture.

    We read in Scripture:

    "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."---Genesis 1:1 NLT

    And as we know science has just recently caught up...I mean for a long time these scientists believed that the universe was eternal but thanks to great scientists like Einstein that belief/theory is held no more, they now theorize that the universe had a beginning. It took science several thousands of years after what those desert dwellers had told us all along.



    Well I wouldn't call it what you call it but yes, we believers, we Christians in this scientific age do take our faith in God seriously. I have more faith in God then men of science...why?... you might ask, well it's because men of science are not always right whereas God is always right![/QUOTE]

    Genesis 6:6-7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    Matthew, Mark and John. They were there and they are very reliable witnesses.

    Provide evidence that they weren't.
    Provide evidence that they were reliable witnesses. You can do this by providing corroborating evidence from the time period.
    sputterman: "Aiding the enemy? If the truth aids the enemy then we are in the wrong war."

    Me: "When the people who teach our children, protect us from fires and criminals, save our lives when we're injured, and defend us with their very lives make less in a year than a guy who throws a ball for a living makes in an hour, there is something truly (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up with our country."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd View Post
    The Babylonian Talmud also says that Adam had sex with all of the animals...
    How sad it must be to have to make up lies and myths you can't defend.

    Rather pitiful I must say. Cowardice is another way of putting it.
    We should all be grateful that Bill Clinton's wife will never become president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd View Post
    There were no people with those names at that time.
    And, as usual, you have no evidence to back your statement.

    Try again? This time with some evidence? Or is that asking too much?
    We should all be grateful that Bill Clinton's wife will never become president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    Matthew, Mark and John. They were there and they are very reliable witnesses. Provide evidence that they weren't.
    Silly American believes Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were eyewitnesses. Maybe you and he should have a discussion regarding your omission of Luke.

    In your opinion, is Matthew the writer of the book bearing his name the same person as an apostle named Matthew? If so, how do you explain this passage wherein the author (Matthew) refers to the apostle (Matthew)?

    Matthew 9 King James Version (KJV)
    9 And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incorporeal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rstones199 View Post
    Now quite with the nonsense and answer the question: The Milky Way has 8.8 billion habitable planets. How do you reconcile these facts with bible. How can you sit here and honestly say that this 'god' of you built this big vast universe JUST for us?
    I already answered that question. Quit being redundant and answer the question that I posed to you on that same subject. Can you count to 8.8 billion in increments of 1?
    I'll answer that question for him Inc since he's dodging it, the answer is no, he or anyone else for that matter cannot count to 8.8 billion in increments of 1.
    "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details." ---- Albert Einstein

    "If you study science deep enough and long enough, it will force you to believe in God."---Lord Kelvin (British scientist)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incorporeal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rstones199 View Post
    As for evidence, I posted the article in Post #622. If you are not going to read the article, instead of playing games, just say you want to remain willfully ignorant and the you will not read the article. I will appreciate honest and not getting s nonsense answer.
    I read the article. I found that the information in the article was not sufficient to compel my mind to accept it and its information as 'true'.
    I read it too and likewise I didn't find the information in the article sufficient enough to compel my mind to accept it and it's information as true because it's all speculation, guesswork nothing factual.
    "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details." ---- Albert Einstein

    "If you study science deep enough and long enough, it will force you to believe in God."---Lord Kelvin (British scientist)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitt Ryan View Post
    Jesus message was one of peace and love. Jesus did not condone slavery, but He didn’t start a crusade against slavery. There were many other evils. Slavery was an evil, but the moral evil in the Roman Empire was beyond description.

    Jesus did not come into to world to judge the world or correct the world (society). The main purpose He came into the world was to save mankind from sins, that's why we Christians refer to Jesus as our Lord Savior. "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through Him." John 3:17 NAS

    In Matthew 28 the passage dealing with "The Great Commission" Jesus did not say to His disciples go out there in all the world and correct society. This is what He told His disciples, "I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of age." Matt. 28:18-20 NLT

    So we Christians have not been commissioned to make the world right, we are to call people out of this world (a fallen world), we are to transform their lives by faith in Christ and give them hope of heaven.

    Just think for a moment, suppose the world would believe the gospel, all these errors, evils would be corrected. And that is the only way to do it. The Bible never suggests we get on a crusade and we have protest marches and so forth. That will get nowhere. Whether it’s against homosexuality, against abortion, etc. Now if people want to preach against it which we should to point out all the evils of a fallen world then there is nothing wrong with that.

    Getting back to this slavery issue, how was Jesus going to correct it? The answer would be by His teachings. Jesus was asked what is the first and great commandment. Jesus said, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, you shall love your neighbor as yourself."--- Matt. 22:37-39 NAS

    Now if you love God that way you are certainly not going to mistreat your fellow human beings. And then loving your neighbor which would include a slave if you had a slave, which was part of that society. Now supposing Jesus just said let's just free all the slaves, that would be such a disruption. How would they earn a living? What would they do for work? Well, they would become bandits and revolutionaries, taking from others; they would become in a worse situation than they were.

    So on one hand, Jesus is not condoning slavery, but He’s not sending His people on a crusade to somehow change a wicked world. They must come to faith in Him; they must give their hearts to God. That was what set slaves free.
    thank you for that explanation.
    You're welcome, and thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitt Ryan View Post
    Jesus is the Prince of peace and love!
    Shame his followers aren't on the same page.
    Shame on the entire sinful, wicked world we live in. We are all sinners, we are all in need of a Savior! Thank Almighty God for giving us our Lord Savior Jesus Christ!

    We read in Scripture:

    Jesus replied, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never be hungry again. Whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. But you haven’t believed in me even though you have seen me. However, those the Father has given me will come to me, and I will never reject them. For I have come down from heaven to do the will of God who sent me, not to do my own will. And this is the will of God, that I should not lose even one of all those he has given me, but that I should raise them up at the last day. For it is my Father’s will that all who see his Son and believe in him should have eternal life. I will raise them up at the last day.”---John 6:35-40 NLT
    Last edited by Mitt Ryan; Jan 12 2017 at 04:32 PM.
    "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details." ---- Albert Einstein

    "If you study science deep enough and long enough, it will force you to believe in God."---Lord Kelvin (British scientist)

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