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    Default Part 35 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

    Part 35 is a continuation of Post Your Tough Questions pertaining to God/Jesus/Holy Bible and I will do my best to clarify and make sense of it to those who are unaware...I still have questions and comments I haven't responded to in Part 9 thru 34.

    I don't want my intentions to come across as converting you or whatever lol... but rather clear up things etc... so ask away. Also I don't want people to feel like I'm ignoring your question/questions/comment/comments, like I said I'm still answering questions on Part 9 and so yes, I'm behind.

    And so when your question comes up and if it is coherent enough in my view I will then answer it. Sometimes I do answer questions out of order but for the most part I answer them as I'm going through the threads. Ok thanks for your understanding & patience!...so again ask away.
    "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details." ---- Albert Einstein

    "If you study science deep enough and long enough, it will force you to believe in God."---Lord Kelvin (British scientist)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    The sun is our source of energy
    I wholeheartedly agree! But let's not forget, the sun was created along with everything else in existence by the Creator Almighty God!
    "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details." ---- Albert Einstein

    "If you study science deep enough and long enough, it will force you to believe in God."---Lord Kelvin (British scientist)

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    ou gotta be jivin us boy, JC was seen by the 5 million population of Israel and the 600-strong Roman garrison, that's a lot of eyeballs..
    "Large crowds from Galilee, the Ten Cities, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan followed him" (Matt 4:25), and he pulled crowds of over 5000 and 4000 at two gigs alone (Matt 14:13, Matt 15:32).
    Heck, he was almost as big as Elvis, and the similarities are uncanny!-

    "..everybody tried to touch Jesus because power was coming from him" (Luke 6:12-19)

    Given the circumsances of the day - lack of communication devices, distances walked and a 12 hour day, your post and christian propaganda is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitt Ryan View Post
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    the sun was created along with everything else in existence by the Creator Almighty God!
    Once again, Mr. Mere Assertion merely asserts. Note how convincing his exclamation point is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevorw2539 View Post
    ou gotta be jivin us boy, JC was seen by the 5 million population of Israel and the 600-strong Roman garrison, that's a lot of eyeballs..
    "Large crowds from Galilee, the Ten Cities, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan followed him" (Matt 4:25), and he pulled crowds of over 5000 and 4000 at two gigs alone (Matt 14:13, Matt 15:32).
    Heck, he was almost as big as Elvis, and the similarities are uncanny!-

    "..everybody tried to touch Jesus because power was coming from him" (Luke 6:12-19)

    Given the circumsances of the day - lack of communication devices, distances walked and a 12 hour day, your post and christian propaganda is ridiculous.
    These Bible worshipers actually believe the stories in the Bible are true. Funny stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdelsolray View Post
    Once again, Mr. Mere Assertion merely asserts. Note how convincing his exclamation point is.

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    These Bible worshipers actually believe the stories in the Bible are true. Funny stuff.
    I actually believe there was a MAN named Jesus. A Jewish preacher of the time. Study the life of this man without the gospel's addition of 'miracles' etc and the attribute of Divinity given him by the disciples, and we have a Jewish teacher. The Gospel writers have put words in the mouth of this preacher that no Jew would ever say. Jesus was in the line of Jewish teachers like the 'prophets' of old. His birth narratives are simply a misinterpretations of OT scriptures taken out of context to make him the prophesied Messiah, the misunderstanding of Roman laws, and contradictory. Trial/crucifixion narratives are again contradictory.

    Jesus spoke to the Jews, in Jewish beliefs and parables - often from the OT - and in most cases they understood him. He died for angering the Religious heirarchy.

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    UOTE=trevorw2539;1066977857]I actually believe there was a MAN named Jesus. A Jewish preacher of the time. Study the life of this man without the gospel's addition of 'miracles' etc and the attribute of Divinity given him by the disciples, and we have a Jewish teacher. The Gospel writers have put words in the mouth of this preacher that no Jew wld ever say. Jesus was in the line of Jewish teachers like the 'prophets' of old. His birth narratives are simply a misinterpretations of OT scriptures taken out of context to make him the prophesied Messiah, the misunderstanding of Roman laws, and contradictory. Trial/crucifixion narratives are again contradictory.

    Jesus spoke to the Jews, in Jewish beliefs and parables - often from the OT - and in most cases they understood him. He died for angering the Religious heirarchy.[/QUOTE]


    I can't imagine that either the Jews or the Romans would be too concerned about a guy teaching "love one another"...

    There's a part of the Babylonian Talmud that talks about Jesus' death a lot.. Its completely different.
    Fate says to the warrior, "You cannot withstand the storm".

    The warrior answers back, "I am the storm".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot2 View Post
    UOTE=trevorw2539;1066977857]I actually believe there was a MAN named Jesus. A Jewish preacher of the time. Study the life of this man without the gospel's addition of 'miracles' etc and the attribute of Divinity given him by the disciples, and we have a Jewish teacher. The Gospel writers have put words in the mouth of this preacher that no Jew wld ever say. Jesus was in the line of Jewish teachers like the 'prophets' of old. His birth narratives are simply a misinterpretations of OT scriptures taken out of context to make him the prophesied Messiah, the misunderstanding of Roman laws, and contradictory. Trial/crucifixion narratives are again contradictory.

    Jesus spoke to the Jews, in Jewish beliefs and parables - often from the OT - and in most cases they understood him. He died for angering the Religious heirarchy.

    I can't imagine that either the Jews or the Romans would be too concerned about a guy teaching "love one another".
    ..

    There's a part of the Babylonian Talmud that talks about Jesus' death a lot.. Its completely different.[/QUOTE]


    I agree. But this was part of the Torah. Jesus would have said it as a good Jewish preacher would have done.


    Leviticus 19:18. Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against a fellow Israelite, but love your neighbour as yourself. I am the Lord.
    " verse 33/34. Do not take advantage of foreigner who lives in your land.Treat them like native born Israelites and love them as you love yourselves.

    The Jewish religious wanted Jesus out of the way. A care less Pilate obliged.The people were well aware the Pharisees cared only for themselves. . The Jewish people were not in on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trevorw2539 View Post
    I actually believe there was a MAN named Jesus. A Jewish preacher of the time. Study the
    life of this man without the gospel's addition of 'miracles' etc and the attribute of Divinity
    given him by the disciples, and we have a Jewish teacher.
    Non Christian evidence of Jesus.
    http://coldcasechristianity.com/2014...ide-the-bible/

    Jesus was the Messiah, as the OT has shown us.
    Quote Originally Posted by trevorw2539 View Post
    The Gospel writers have put words in the mouth of this preacher that no Jew would ever say.
    The writers of the Gospels were Jews so yes a Jew would say that.
    Quote Originally Posted by trevorw2539 View Post
    Jesus was in the line of Jewish teachers like the 'prophets' of old. His birth narratives are
    simply a misinterpretations of OT scriptures taken out of context to make him the prophesied
    Messiah, the misunderstanding of Roman laws, and contradictory. Trial/crucifixion narratives
    are again contradictory.
    Wrong. You are taking the Bible out of context. I've pointed this out several times and you
    still ignore the evidence. There are no contradictions or misunderstandings, either.

    You on the other hand claimed to have taken religion courses. I've busted this myth by
    exposing your "word for word" cut and paste in you previous posts that you claim to
    be from your notes. The misunderstandings of the Bible so far have been yours, which
    are evident in every post you make.

    I'm going to have to continue showing you and the posters the errors of your ways.
    We should all be grateful that Bill Clinton's wife will never become president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    Non Christian evidence of Jesus.
    http://coldcasechristianity.com/2014...ide-the-bible/

    Jesus was the Messiah, as the OT has shown us.

    The writers of the Gospels were Jews so yes a Jew would say that.

    Wrong. You are taking the Bible out of context. I've pointed this out several times and you
    still ignore the evidence. There are no contradictions or misunderstandings, either.

    You on the other hand claimed to have taken religion courses. I've busted this myth by
    exposing your "word for word" cut and paste in you previous posts that you claim to
    be from your notes. The misunderstandings of the Bible so far have been yours, which
    are evident in every post you make.

    I'm going to have to continue showing you and the posters the errors of your ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    Following, from your link, is the title of the article, the author and date,heading and the first sentence.
    Is There Any Evidence for Jesus Outside the Bible?
    jwallace May 1, 2014
    Is There Any Evidence for Jesus Outside the BibleThe reliable Gospel eyewitness accounts arenít the only ancient description of Jesus.


    Please name one "reliable Gospel eyewitness" who wrote an account of anything Jesus did.

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