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Pascal took things one step further.
The wager also assumed that the gambler put his money down on the correct god. Shintoists, Zoroastrians, Hindus etc. didn't believe in "God". Pascal's Wager argued that what ever number you selected on Fortuna's wheel, it might be the wrong one. In any case, this sort of spiritual commitment is hardly an act of faith. It's an act of cautious reason. Regarding the ethics question: While there are several mentions in the bible of cannibalism there is no condemnation of the practice. How does this naturalistic taboo fit into your paradigm? |
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1. If a given action is not specifically approved or condemned in the Bible, it might or might not be wrong. 2. If I choose the more restrictive approach (just in case it might be wrong), I will not be punished if I am incorrect. 3. If I choose the less restrictive approach, I will be punished (possibly eternally) if the action is, in God's sight, immoral. 4. Therefore, whenever I have no guidance as to whether or not I should do something, I should not do it, since it might be wrong and I might suffer eternally for doing it. This is very cold and methodical, but it also drives me into fits of insanity.
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One might think that, if the bible were man's behavior handbook, that it might offer some guidance on the matter of devouring the tissue of others. It instructs slaves how to relate to their masters and condemns us for wearing blended fabrics. The level of detail can get pretty narrow. We intuit that cannibalism is wrong because it offends us at a pre-cognative level. That's why it's not necessary for the bible to condemn it. Our morality is actually gathered from our native common sense. Cultures that don't have this Judeo-Christian collection in their tradition share all our important mores.
I think there is only one fundamental moral rule: Treat others as you would be treated. That is the essential civilizing impulse. |
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That ethic, while well intended, has the flaw that others may not wish to be treated as we wish to be treated. Therefore, one must add to that ethic a qualifier, "Treat others as you would be treated... if you were them." However, it is impossible to know how others wish to be treated with absolute precision. Then there is the problem that neither we nor others may know what is best for us in the long term. Would that ethics were as simple as the golden rule, but it is not.
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You should read some of the books written by Scott Peck. He suggested that everyone must have a master whether it is God, government, an ideal, or one’s own ego. |
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Without intending to extend our quarrel into the religion forum, Jellyfish, I must state in all sincerity that I am not going to take advice on religion or philosophy from you.
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If you want to play the fool, then by all means do so! |
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You may hate me too, Force, but Jellyfish is right. I believe that there's a certain degree of blasphemy when expecting oneself to be perfect. Absolutely nowhere in the Bible does it say you have to be perfect in order to get to heaven. Only God can be perfect.
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Actually, I respect you and all of the others I insulted a while back. That was one of the fits of insanity I was writing about (not an excuse, just an explanation). I don't respect Jellyfish, however, and if you have seen many of his posts you know why.
Well, it isn't that I expect to be perfect, it's that I don't know when I am required to repent. Some things I know to be sins, others I know to be good deeds, but to be honest, I am uncertain about the ethical status of the majority of actions.
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