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Old 07-29-2006, 11:51 AM
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Default Muslims take pride that there is no ambiguity in the Quran

No multiple translations, its a relatively young book compared to Christianity and Judeism. No leeway in interpretation.

So what the Quran says, you do. What do they do?
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Old 07-29-2006, 12:17 PM
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The ambiguity in the bible serves its purpose, think about it. See, God knows exactly what he is doing. BRILLIANT!
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No multiple translations,
What are you talking about? You can order an English translation on Amazon.

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its a relatively young book compared to Christianity and Judeism.
So?

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No leeway in interpretation.
Yeah, that's why the two major schools of thought around the Quran are the Sunni and Shi'a.

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So what the Quran says, you do.
I guess so, much in the same sense that Christians do what the New Testament to do, Jews the Talmud, Mormons the Doctrines & Covenants.

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What do they do?
I'm not Muslim, so I don't really know, but I try not to hand out misinformation on the subject.
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No leeway in interpretation.
Yeah, that's why the two major schools of thought around the Quran are the Sunni and Shi'a.
...which has nothing to do with the book itself but what some Imman, Sheik, freak tweak geek, whatever was the rightful something something.... Hey Islam help me out here...

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So what the Quran says, you do.
I guess so, much in the same sense that Christians do what the New Testament to do, Jews the Talmud, Mormons the Doctrines & Covenants.
Wrong, the New Testimate doesn't order anyone to do anything. They are stories and parables about some dude's life called Jesus.

I don't know about the Talmud.

Mormons are idiots, and you would agree with meif you had an inkling about Mormonism.
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No leeway in interpretation.
Yeah, that's why the two major schools of thought around the Quran are the Sunni and Shi'a.
...which has nothing to do with the book itself but what some Imman, Sheik, freak tweak geek, whatever was the rightful something something.... Hey Islam help me out here...
Seriously, what are you drinking over there? I'm chugging a Guinness myself...Good stuff!

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So what the Quran says, you do.
I guess so, much in the same sense that Christians do what the New Testament to do, Jews the Talmud, Mormons the Doctrines & Covenants.
Wrong, the New Testimate doesn't order anyone to do anything. They are stories and parables about some dude's life called Jesus.
That's your take on it. I've heard plenty of others who speak quite differently about the New Testament.

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I don't know about the Talmud.
Okay, to be honest, me neither, I just threw it in for effect .

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Mormons are idiots, and you would agree with meif you had an inkling about Mormonism.
I didn't comment on the legitimacy of Mormonism. I only pointed out that they do what their scriptures tell them to do, more or less, I suppose, just as most ever other religion does. I don't see how you can hold that against only muslims.
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just read a trensalation of the quran and u wil understand islam better
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Wrong, the New Testimate doesn't order anyone to do anything. They are stories and parables about some dude's life called Jesus.
That's your take on it. I've heard plenty of others who speak quite differently about the New Testament.
Its not what my take on it is, thats exactly what its all about. The mysterious shadowy 'other' characters you speak about are idiots.

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Okay, to be honest, me neither, I just threw it in for effect .
*sigh* Democrats.

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Mormons are idiots, and you would agree with meif you had an inkling about Mormonism.
I didn't comment on the legitimacy of Mormonism. I only pointed out that they do what their scriptures tell them to do, more or less, I suppose, just as most ever other religion does. I don't see how you can hold that against only muslims.
Democrats live in a moral (everything) equavalent world, where uncritical-lazy thinking rules. All beliefs consist of political cliches and mantras. If there was ever a passe religion, its liberalism, and it meets all the criteria of what type of political-religious dialogue that is to be avoided.
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just read a trensalation of the quran and u wil understand islam better
I got to the book, "Women," again, it was a hard read, I didn't like the style, and the message was brutal and unkind. I do not understand your assertions that Islam is a nice or inspiring religion.
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Wrong, the New Testimate doesn't order anyone to do anything. They are stories and parables about some dude's life called Jesus.
That's your take on it. I've heard plenty of others who speak quite differently about the New Testament.
Its not what my take on it is, thats exactly what its all about. The mysterious shadowy 'other' characters you speak about are idiots.
Are you suggesting that there is "no leeway" in your interpretation of the Bible?

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I don't know about the Talmud.
Okay, to be honest, me neither, I just threw it in for effect .
*sigh* Democrats.

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Mormons are idiots, and you would agree with me if you had an inkling about Mormonism.
I didn't comment on the legitimacy of Mormonism. I only pointed out that they do what their scriptures tell them to do, more or less, I suppose, just as most ever other religion does. I don't see how you can hold that against only muslims.
Democrats live in a moral (everything) equavalent world, where uncritical-lazy thinking rules. All beliefs consist of political cliches and mantras. If there was ever a passe religion, its liberalism, and it meets all the criteria of what type of political-religious dialogue that is to be avoided.
Is this all you're ever gonna do on this forum, turn every discussion into a "Why I Hate Demoncrats!!!" rant?
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The Code of Hammubari

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If any one ensnare another, putting a ban upon him, but he can not prove it, then he that ensnared him shall be put to death.


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If any one bring an accusation against a man, and the accused go to the river and leap into the river, if he sink in the river his accuser shall take possession of his house. But if the river prove that the accused is not guilty, and he escape unhurt, then he who had brought the accusation shall be put to death, while he who leaped into the river shall take possession of the house that had belonged to his accuser.


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If any one bring an accusation of any crime before the elders, and does not prove what he has charged, he shall, if it be a capital offense charged, be put to death.


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If he satisfy the elders to impose a fine of grain or money, he shall receive the fine that the action produces.


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If a judge try a case, reach a decision, and present his judgment in writing; if later error shall appear in his decision, and it be through his own fault, then he shall pay twelve times the fine set by him in the case, and he shall be publicly removed from the judge's bench, and never again shall he sit there to render judgement.


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If any one steal the property of a temple or of the court, he shall be put to death, and also the one who receives the stolen thing from him shall be put to death.


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If any one buy from the son or the slave of another man, without witnesses or a contract, silver or gold, a male or female slave, an ox or a sheep, an ass or anything, or if he take it in charge, he is considered a thief and shall be put to death.


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If any one steal cattle or sheep, or an ass, or a pig or a goat, if it belong to a god or to the court, the thief shall pay thirtyfold; if they belonged to a freed man of the king he shall pay tenfold; if the thief has nothing with which to pay he shall be put to death.
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^^^The Koran reads like this, but a little less brutal. I stress the word, 'little'.
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