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Old 06-13-2004, 10:07 PM
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This post is for people who believe in spiritual gifts. Other wise I really dont want your opinion (not because I think less of you, but I dont believe you can be 100% lined up with the Holy Spirit if you dont believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit)
I am not so concerned about a womans role with her husband. I am looking for thoughts on a womans role in the church, ministry and spiritual gifts. There are a ton more scriptures on examples of woman. I believe we are free from many of the OT/old covenant laws. When Jesus died and sent the Holy Spirit it wasnt just for men, it was also for woman.

Read, 1 Corinthians 11 to start with. (here is an online link -

http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/b...n&showxref=on)

The bible talks about woman not being in "authority" over men. Some people believe that means they can not be pastors, though read eph 4 and it says some are for teaching, preaching, pastors, evanglist etc. Woman and men can recieve the same spiritual gifts, there are no gifts either can not recieve because one is man or the other is female. So if a woman isnt supposed to teach a man because that is "authority", then why in John 4 do we see this from basically a brand new baby christian,
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42Then they said to the woman, "Now we believe, not because of what you said, for we ourselves have heard Him and we know that this is indeed the Christ, the Savior of the world."
Acts 8:12
But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized


Corinthians 14:34-35
Let women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says.
And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.


Philippians 4:3
And Yes. I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life.


1 Timothy 2
in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works. Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.


Titus talks about older woman teaching the younger.

1 Peter 3
Do not let your adornment be merely outward--arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel-- rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. For in this manner, in former times, the holy women who trusted in God also adorned themselves, being submissive to their own husbands, as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, whose daughters you are if you do good and are not afraid with any terror
A Word to Husbands
7 Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered
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This post is for people who believe in spiritual gifts. Other wise I really dont want your opinion (not because I think less of you, but I dont believe you can be 100% lined up with the Holy Spirit if you dont believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit)
I am not so concerned about a womans role with her husband. I am looking for thoughts on a womans role in the church, ministry and spiritual gifts. There are a ton more scriptures on examples of woman. I believe we are free from many of the OT/old covenant laws. When Jesus died and sent the Holy Spirit it wasnt just for men, it was also for woman.

Read, 1 Corinthians 11 to start with. (here is an online link -

http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/b...n&showxref=on)

The bible talks about woman not being in "authority" over men. Some people believe that means they can not be pastors, though read eph 4 and it says some are for teaching, preaching, pastors, evanglist etc. Woman and men can recieve the same spiritual gifts, there are no gifts either can not recieve because one is man or the other is female. So if a woman isnt supposed to teach a man because that is "authority", then why in John 4 do we see this from basically a brand new baby christian,
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42Then they said to the woman, "Now we believe, not because of what you said, for we ourselves have heard Him and we know that this is indeed the Christ, the Savior of the world."
Acts 8:12
But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized


Corinthians 14:34-35
Let women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says.
And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.


Philippians 4:3
And Yes. I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life.


1 Timothy 2
in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works. Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.


Titus talks about older woman teaching the younger.

1 Peter 3
Do not let your adornment be merely outward--arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel-- rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. For in this manner, in former times, the holy women who trusted in God also adorned themselves, being submissive to their own husbands, as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, whose daughters you are if you do good and are not afraid with any terror
A Word to Husbands
7 Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered
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Any woman who is saving herself for Jesus will find little happyness in her marriage.

Any husband who is forced to spend to much time in the dog house will soon find a cat house.
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Old 06-22-2004, 06:25 PM
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This has nothing to do with this topic.

Let me remind you of Proverbs 18:22 -He who finds a wife finds a good thing, And obtains favor from the LORD.
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