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04-08-2007, 09:46 AM
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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country. And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country. 
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04-08-2007, 10:02 AM
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"Some people complain about the system. The system is not good, so they can't do anything. It's an excuse. Freedom is in your heart." (Jin Xing)
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04-08-2007, 10:12 AM
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anyway, Christ took those sins away with His death. His resurrection shows us how things will be when we are in Heaven.
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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country. And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.
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04-08-2007, 10:34 AM
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Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me, for me, for me
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The mistake is taking one verse and leaving out the context of the entire Bible. I could make the obvious assertion that God was talking to Eve and not all womankind, however, it's accepted that He was talking about all women. What to do with such a thing when even my own experience contradicts it? The answer may seem equally obvious. Those who believe that women throughout time are paying the price of Eve's original sin are forgetting one thing. Jesus suffered and died for every sin in human history - every single one, including Eve's.
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Order without liberty and liberty without order are equally destructive. - Theodore Roosevelt
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04-08-2007, 02:05 PM
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nu uh......
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"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." -V
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04-12-2007, 10:42 AM
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I am often accused of being a moral relativist. This is only true in the cosmological sense. That is, the universe doesn't "care" if one person murders another. This is not to say we shouldn't either. I generally see good as things that increase happiness and evil as things that lower it needlessly. (I add that last word because some things are unavoidable and to me not "evil" per se). This is a VAST oversimplification, but it provides at least a framework for the goals a just and good society should strive for. It is also admittedly a human construct; I make no pretense of putting a murder in jail to appease some universal sense of justice. There are plenty of practical reasons to do so. In short, we live in the "real world"--debates about theodicy are simply not applicable.
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04-12-2007, 05:19 PM
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Warning on R B Thieme
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R B Thieme is a heretic. Thieme plays a shell game with word of God. He hides behind the walls of theological acadamics. Read Dr. Wall's dissertation http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6049008/i/Thieme.pdf Thieme does not believe in the literal physical blood of Jesus as having saved us, nor the physical death, only the spiritual death. Dr Wall will tell you it is both and the literal blood. Thieme is completely alone in this. Even Thieme's mentor Chafer disagrees with Thieme on this.
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04-12-2007, 06:08 PM
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that it is locke
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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country. And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.
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04-12-2007, 07:06 PM
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If you start with all kinds of silly assumptions, some of which are contradictory, you are going to get silly answers. It is like trying to stick a circle into a square, it doesn't really work even if you manage to force them together. For example, lets suppose we all agree "evil" exists. Based on a stereotypical old testament Christian god, you run into problems real fast. In fact, Epicurus understood this way before monotheism came about. Quote:
.. fritter away is a poor choice of words, since it implies there was something useful to be done with a theology degree to begin with. If instead we are talking about a much more nebulous idea of god, you still get trouble. By nebulous I mean vague conceptions like "god is love" or "god is the force holding the universe together" etc etc. In other words, people too intelligent to believe in the fire and brimstone god, but still too uncertain to let go altogether. The problem with this is that one is trivially redefining the meaning of "god." Replace the term god is love with love is the greatest force for good on the earth, and you have the same idea. But the second one has no theological meaning at all, while the first does. In short, this god is nothing but word games. More mental gymnastics. In any case, he/she/it is still unable to prevent evil.
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04-13-2007, 05:17 AM
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No Dilemma
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The chief difference between the carnival entertainer and the cleric is that the cleric believes in the cards. Quote:
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