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Old 07-21-2004, 06:10 AM
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Default I think religion is made up by rich people (kings and lords)

I do really believe it is made way back in the med evil days by kings and lords. I think it was a way of controlling people back then when things were less civil. Think about it. Alot of the wars in the worlds history support this.
I think at some point people from certain religions groups up their own version of to fit the social class or status class the people were in. Like Rich version, middle class version and a poor version of religion. In some cases today that is true. Thats why there is so many religions out there. So religions in the same path branch off but off the same idea.

Thats my two cents. Whats yours.
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Old 07-21-2004, 06:15 AM
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Default Of course religion can be misused and coopted

But I think its origins go a little deeper than propaganda. Not all religion is bad. There are many people of faith who see religion as a great part of their lives.
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Old 07-21-2004, 06:25 AM
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Default Not saying if its bad or good

Not saying if religion is bad or good but most of these religion make no sense in some ways.

Nobody has came up with any real proof of their religion.
So until god or something like him/or she tell me to f@@@off!! I don't believe any religion.
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Not saying if religion is bad or good but most of these religion make no sense in some ways.

Nobody has came up with any real proof of their religion.
So until god or something like him/or she tell me to f@@@off!! I don't believe any religion.
Where is it that I can purchase this Rich version of the Holy Bible?
I must have gotten the Lower Middle Class one...LOL

Psst...Sometimes we just have to have some faith.
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Default Ahhh grasshopper, thats because religion is

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Not saying if religion is bad or good but most of these religion make no sense in some ways.

Nobody has came up with any real proof of their religion.
So until god or something like him/or she tell me to f@@@off!! I don't believe any religion.
a matter of faith. Its believing in something you do not understand and turning yourself over to something you cannot understand.

As such, a man or woman of faith can look at the scientific "proof" that contradicts the bible's version of creation and see it as a test of faith. I mean, if you could reduce a belief in God down to verifiable things like carbon dating, then how much faith would it require to believe?

Before you say any religion does not make any sense, you might want to take a minute and realize what an incredibly deep and complex subject you are dismissing. Maybe the reason it does not make any sense to you is that you have not taken enough time to seriously understand this thing you are judging.
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Where is it that I can purchase this Rich version of the Holy Bible?
Go to any thrift shop and get one of those vintage Authorized King James versions that still have the dedication to the King printed in its preface. I'd recommend a Latin Vulgate but what's left of that version are all in museums.
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I must have gotten the Lower Middle Class one...LOL
All of them were written for the consumption of the lower-than-royal classes.
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In yourself as an individual, as a human being? Sure. But believing anything anybody expects you to swallow without your demanding any kind of proof is just foolish.
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I have yet to meet a religion that didn't serve a political agenda. Even the earliest idol-worshipping religions did, and it was mainly a deal about some guys who figured out how to do some magical tricks that others couldn't figure out and told everybody that the gods would squish 'em if they didn't bow in shock-n-awe to these human beings.

There may be religions that started out political and then decided to be anti-political, but they were political to become anti-political (like the various branches of Buddhism, originally being anti-Hindu).

The funniest thing I find about American protestant evangelicals is that they're chanting in unison to look at the religious heritage of the U.S.--Puritan--while thumping their King James Bibles. King James was the primary persecutors of Puritans, which is why they came to the U.S. in the first place.
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Go to any thrift shop and get one of those vintage Authorized King James versions that still have the dedication to the King printed in its preface. I'd recommend a Latin Vulgate but what's left of that version are all in museums.
This is too funny!!! I like you guys...I really do. LOL
Just what is about this "Rich" Bible that makes it different from my cheap, lower middle class Bible?
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:39 AM
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Default yes their is a rich man version and poor mans version

That why i believe there is a rich man version and poor man version.
People get tried of hearing one type of religion ever though they believe in it. So they make up a version that fits their agenda. Like a rich man and a poor man version. The proof is in the history if you would check. Just look at Mormons and Catholics.
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:47 AM
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It just so happens that I don't have a copy of the Mormans handy. Can you give me an example? I do have the Holy Bible (NIV) Handy, if that helps.
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