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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemikev View Post
    You "carefully" read...the abstract? If you had read the paper, you would see that they hypothesize that humans are a mix of ancient lineages from each area. That there were no "original humans". That "Out of Africa" is a false theory.
    The abstract is really enough; the haplotypes for the Y-chromosome differentiated in a region somewhere in the Near East. That does not explain anything regarding the majority of the human genome, which is obviously African in origin.

    Hominids such as Neanderthal, Denisova and Heidelbergensis were running around in Eurasia for the last million years.
    Only H. neanderthalensis contributed anything to the modern human genome, and even then, only around 3%, which was mostly genes relating to immune system function.

    They form part of the non-African lineage. You need to understand that "Out of Africa" is a false theory. It has been falsified. Understand that.
    Nope, it hasn't. Sorry to burst your racist bubble.

    You are just making up that the differences are miniscule and in fact you have no idea how deep the differences run.
    http://science.kqed.org/quest/2008/0...tic-diversity/

    People are surprisingly similar at a genetic level. For example, any two people from anywhere on Earth are more similar than two chimps from the same troop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akhlut View Post
    The abstract is really enough; the haplotypes for the Y-chromosome differentiated in a region somewhere in the Near East. That does not explain anything regarding the majority of the human genome, which is obviously African in origin.

    Only H. neanderthalensis contributed anything to the modern human genome, and even then, only around 3%, which was mostly genes relating to immune system function.

    Nope, it hasn't. Sorry to burst your racist bubble.

    http://science.kqed.org/quest/2008/0...tic-diversity/
    Oh the human genome is "obviously" African. Nice argument, very scientific.

    I think you'll find Heidelbergensis contributed a lot to the human genome, because that's what humans evolved from.

    Most of the "similarities" you speak of are in junk DNA, which forms most of the genome, and is of no importance.

    Important DNA under heavy selection is racially distributed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Akhlut View Post
    I was referring to humans co-evolving with zebras and other African megafauna that would potentially be suitable for domestication; such evolution would have occurred from roughly ~7 million years ago to ~100,000 years ago for the out of Africa exodus. For all intents and purposes that is "we" as that contains 99% of the ancestors of all humans alive today.
    That's not what you said. You said "we"
    Whenever anyone backs you into a corner it's THEIR fault because they "don't understand"



    Quote Originally Posted by akh
    While I am a Marxist, I do not use much copy-pasta without sourcing, thanks.
    I knew you were a marxist long ago and you are WELL indoctrinated.



    Quote Originally Posted by akh
    Have you actually read Marx?
    I skim and consider.
    I don't study him and look for ways to implement the theory. I'll stipulate that you're better trained in marxism than I.
    Have you read Mein Kampf?



    Quote Originally Posted by akh
    Now here's someone using copy-pasta without sourcing.
    Yes..I pasted that.I wasn't being dishonest....that's why I enclosed it in quotes. As a commie, you must recognize those words and tactics.



    Quote Originally Posted by akh
    The only native equines in Africa are all intractable, violent, and skittish. As I said, even today, zoo-bred zebras raised around humans who treat them well will still kill zookeepers with startlingly regularity.
    Quit making weak excuses and dodging and evading..
    Elephants have been domesticated for centuries...They kill their handlers occasionally.
    Horses have been domesticated for many centuries..they kill their handlers occasionally.
    Dogs have been domesticated for millenia..they kill humans occasionally...



    Quote Originally Posted by akh
    Native Americans domesticated feral horses from the Spanish. And there's pretty good evidence that the tarpans of Central Asia were a good deal more docile around human beings than zebras, as even feral horses such as mustangs or truly wild central Asian horses such Przewalski's horses can be tamed by humans with relative ease (ie, they don't try to kill humans with regularity).
    Say what?

    the rest is evasion.




    Quote Originally Posted by akh
    Not really
    Yes...really.


    Quote Originally Posted by akh
    And 40% of Americans think we were created directly by YHWH; doesn't make it the truth. The evidence shows quite strongly that modern humans originated in Africa and that we are all, in our DNA, Africans.
    I have no idea what YHWH is.
    ...Not at all proven that all humans..out of africa..etc..but consider this...explain how, if we're all africans, why are asians and white people so far advanced and africans so backward despite a 100,000 year head start?
    Try to avoid the weak marxist excuse of "white colonialism" as a fallback position.
    Will you admit africans are on average mentally inferior to asians? how about whites?
    I showed you 2 different IQ charts from 2 different sources showing subsaharan africans are borderline retarded and in typical marxist fashion your reply was "nuh uh..that's racist"
    Last edited by Akula; Aug 26 2012 at 06:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akula View Post
    Will you admit africans are on average mentally inferior to asians? how about whites?I showed you 2 different IQ charts from 2 different sources showing subsaharan africans are borderline retarded and in typical marxist fashion your reply was "nuh uh..that's racist"
    What kind of IQ tests and questions are used to determine a certain group's average mental capability?Irish woman looks like an apehttp://darrylhattenhauer.com/h8/19/images/Cartoon%20Irish%20woman%20look s%20like%20an%20ape_jpg.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd View Post
    What kind of IQ tests and questions are used to determine a certain group's average mental capability?Irish woman looks like an apehttp://darrylhattenhauer.com/h8/19/images/Cartoon%20Irish%20woman%20look s%20like%20an%20ape_jpg.jpg
    No idea what you're trying to say or prove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akula View Post
    No idea what you're trying to say or prove.
    The point is that anyone can claim that any group is more intelligent than other groups, depending upon the specific tests and questions. Therefore all IQ tests are biased.The only thing that's really true about intelligence is that the more people there are the more smart people there are in the aggregate. It doesn't necessarily mean that everyone in any particular group is intelligent. There are more geniuses today than at any time in history because there are more people. There are also more stupid people today than at anytime in history because the population is so much larger.Just because you might know a lot of stuff doesn't mean that you are intelligent. It would be very easy to prove that you (or me) are dumber than a bunch of rocks. But chances are excellent that we are smarter than at least 5 billion other people. That means that over 2 billion people are smarter than we are. Most of the time that simply doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd View Post
    The point is that anyone can claim that any group is more intelligent than other groups, depending upon the specific tests and questions. Therefore all IQ tests are biased.The only thing that's really true about intelligence is that the more people there are the more smart people there are in the aggregate. It doesn't necessarily mean that everyone in any particular group is intelligent. There are more geniuses today than at any time in history because there are more people. There are also more stupid people today than at anytime in history because the population is so much larger.Just because you might know a lot of stuff doesn't mean that you are intelligent. It would be very easy to prove that you (or me) are dumber than a bunch of rocks. But chances are excellent that we are smarter than at least 5 billion other people. That means that over 2 billion people are smarter than we are. Most of the time that simply doesn't matter.
    I posted 2 versions from different sources with the results by nationality. You guys deny, make excuses and rationalize..Ok..believe what you want.
    You are right and the entire scientific community is wrong. That's possible, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rstones199 View Post
    Genius bonobo chimp creates stone tools like early hominids

    A chimpanzee is one of the 4 members of the Great Ape Family. The other 3 are Gorillas, Orangutangs and Humans.

    I find this article interesting because it shows the chimpanzee is not that different from us. At least one of its kind can use tools made from rocks and employ cognitive problem solving skills, just as early humans did.

    To me, this is just further proof (like we need more) of Evolution. One specie evolving into one or more. All for members of The Great Ape Family can trace our origins back to one common ancestor. No silly god needed. No magic man in the sky. No bogie man in the closet. Just one simple truth: Evolution.
    I've heard it claimed more than once that animals simply act on instinct. Apes are great at dashing that notion - in this case using stone tools!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akula View Post
    I posted 2 versions from different sources with the results by nationality. You guys deny, make excuses and rationalize..Ok..believe what you want. You are right and the entire scientific community is wrong. That's possible, I suppose.
    I've only been wrong once and that was the time that I thought that I was wrong.Genesis 6:6 (NLT) = So the Lord was sorry he had ever made them and put them on the earth. It broke his heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd View Post
    I've only been wrong once and that was the time that I thought that I was wrong.Genesis 6:6 (NLT) = So the Lord was sorry he had ever made them and put them on the earth. It broke his heart.
    Well, that's funny I have to admit.

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