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Old 04-22-2008, 09:57 AM
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The U.S. is always listed among the most religious countries. If Herk's theory is be believed, the U.S. should have a crime rate 7-8 times less than that of Japan. Yet it's the exact opposite. That's not to imply that religion is causing crime and other problems in the U.S. But it doesn't appear to be the savior Herk claims, either. The problems Herk has listed as being caused by a lack of religion don't exist for the most part in Japan, yet Japan is among the least religious of countries. We are very religious here, yet all those problems are common.
Japan is not a multi-cultural Nation.

We are.
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Don't have children if you can't afford them.

Why place ALL of the burden on taxpayers.

I'm all for public education by the way, I just think the curriculum its liberally biased.
And if that's your answer, you should really stop complaining about social problems. There is NOT going to be a change in birth rates among the poor, and they are typically the route of most social problems.

So no burden on taxpayers? I guess that leaves out free birth control.
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Japan is not a multi-cultural Nation.

We are.
Canada is. And I wouldn't doubt it if we had a higher rate of immigration than USA (that's including illegals).
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We are.
Sorry Herk. You didn't say anything about that. Let's recap. Your hypothesis is that the problems you listed are caused by a lack of religion. Hence, it logically follows that a very religious country, like America, should not have the problems you listed, while a majority agnostic/atheistic country, like Japan, should be teeming with said problems. Yet the facts are in total opposition to your hypothesis. That is pretty strong evidence that said hypothesis is not accurate. You never mentioned anything about multi-cultural in your hypothesis. But let's move on to the Netherlands. They are quite multi-cultural there. Not quite like America, but far more than Japan. They are also high on the agnostic/athiest scale. Yet they do not have the problems you listed. It sounds like you need a new hypothesis.
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Sorry Herk. You didn't say anything about that. Let's recap. Your hypothesis is that the problems you listed are caused by a lack of religion. Hence, it logically follows that a very religious country, like America, should not have the problems you listed, while a majority agnostic/atheistic country, like Japan, should be teeming with said problems. Yet the facts are in total opposition to your hypothesis. That is pretty strong evidence that said hypothesis is not accurate. You never mentioned anything about multi-cultural in your hypothesis. But let's move on to the Netherlands. They are quite multi-cultural there. Not quite like America, but far more than Japan. They are also high on the agnostic/athiest scale. Yet they do not have the problems you listed. It sounds like you need a new hypothesis.


The many successes of the United States can be attributed to the fact we're more religious, if you want to play that game.

Think where'd we be if we were atheistic...not only morally bankrupt but no longer leader of the Free World.

Religion is keeping us afloat, otherwise we'd sink.
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The many successes of the United States can be attributed to the fact we're more religious, if you want to play that game.

Think where'd we be if we were atheistic...not only morally bankrupt but no longer leader of the Free World.

Religion is keeping us afloat, otherwise we'd sink.
We are the dominant Nation on this Earth.

Financially and Militarily.


Thank you Religion.
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The many successes of the United States can be attributed to the fact we're more religious, if you want to play that game.

Think where'd we be if we were atheistic...not only morally bankrupt but no longer leader of the Free World.

Religion is keeping us afloat, otherwise we'd sink.
Name one person in America who is an atheist and who is morally bankrupt.
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Name one person in America who is an atheist and who is morally bankrupt.

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Religion is keeping us afloat, otherwise we'd sink.
Wow. Yet another bad hypothesis. Let's look at facts again, shall we? No need for opinion when you have facts, right?

What's keeping other strong economies afloat (Japan, Netherlands, Germany, China, etc.) despite them having a high proportion of non-religious people? Japan's economy is Number 2 and they lead the list of heathen nations. China and Germany are the next largest economies. Heathens, too. Wow. Further, Central America is highly religious. Just like America. Yet, oddly, they have mostly weak economies. Italy has weak economy for Europe and they are very religious. Doesn't look like that theory holds up, either.

Do you suppose that economic strength is driven by some other factors? Like, I don't know, free markets, natural resources, orderly markets, you know, stuff like that?
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