I get more out of running. Makes the journey more enjoyable for me.

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Someone hijacked my sig again.

I'm steering clear of these religious threads, but since I'm being attacked (behind my back so to speak) I will offer a quick retort.

Ephesians 6:17
Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.


Atheists offer nothing, stand for nothing, and are nothing.

We offer only cohesive evidence based truth. We stand for nothing religious-wise, agreed. I don't quite know what you mean when you say we are nothing. We are humans, which I think is at least something.

I think he's saying we offer/stand for/are nothing spiritually. Which I am fine with. I don't need anything, spiritually. The things religion offers aren't necessary, unless you're scared to death of dying.

I generally don't have a problem with athiests.


I don't really care if they think my beliefs are fairy tales, maybe they are.


But then again, maybe they aren't. Maybe they're in for a butt hurt by Satan.


We'll just have to findout. Worst case scenario: They're right, and don't get a chance to enjoy it cause they're (*)(*)(*)(*)ing dead and rotting.


Not much of a victory if you ask me.

There are a number of different religions that say non-believers will be punished forever, so we're all in the same boat there.

And I'm not planning an "I'm right!" party after I die. My victory is living a full life without the help of God. The only reason I'm worried about being wrong is that I get bored within a few minutes. Even if I get into heaven, after about 500 years, I don't care how wonderful it is, I'll be trying to kill myself for something to do. The middle ground between eternal life and ceasing to exist would be reincarnation, which I would be happy with. Every time you die, you lose your memory and start a new life.

Not a large scope of vision you have do you?


You keep thinking in terms of a mortal mind, not a quantamn mind...


For one, the soul could perhaps be like a conscience plant. To us, a plant seems immobile. The seed just lies in the ground and doesn't move. But if we fast foward from months of waiting, we see it grow, blossom, etc.


The reason we cannot immagine plants living is because we're too busy dying.. Our fast paced lives are like huge stars full of energy and being the first ones to dissipate.


To think in-terms of quantamn time isn't so much "forever" as "too long for normal math to measure". The best way to look at it is to immagine a staircase. And every step up is ten times longer then the step below it..

So what might seem like five hundred years to us, may feel as though five minutes to the soul.


Then again, maybe time isn't different, and perhaps sense we will be at such an advanced state, we won't need the constant stimulation that we need now. Remember; we only feel the need for stimulis because of biology. The brain is an organ just like everything else.

We'd lack the physical sensations and urges we have right now. So there's no telling how we'd react on pure mind..


Not to meation sense we cannot even immagine the endless possibilities of death, we cannot immagine all we might or might not encounter. Hell, if anything, I'd say we reincarnate to get away from the epic barrage of happenings in the afterlife.



I can't immagine what it must be like to have such an uncreative mind. What a waste... Why even bother being human if you can't immagine? Just be an animal. That seems to be what you want. Aim small, miss small...

Perhaps that was what he meant. I don't have much of a problem with that either as I've never quite understood the term "spiritual". I'm often awe-struck when I watch the night sky at some desolate place, but I'm not sure being awe-struck and having a tingle go up your back with the wonder and fascination of our Universe is the same as spirutuality.

The difference then seems to be that I do care whether you live in a delusion or not.

We have footage of plants growing from seeds to full grown plants and then dying. We don't to imagine. We know.
No idea what you are saying here. There is no quantum time and there is nothing too long for normal math to measure. Could you clarify?
Who is "us" in this case? I thought you thought we were our soul?
No idea what that means.
Uh..yes, you certainly are very creative. If only you could make sense.