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One bit of insight I have into the double standard is even if I tell a Christian to not do something, I don't expect them to listen to me. If I tell them not to push their religion on me, it's more rhetorical than an actual command, if they actually do it it's a bonus. You can still call it a double standard, but I've gotten accustomed to the fact that there will always be a Christian telling me to change my ways and another (*)(*)(*)(*)ing me to hell. I don't expect anything I say to change that.
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Not sure what you mean by "can't prove". Every religious text on Earth was written by people and interpreted by other people. Every religion is run by people and followed by people. Faith is not the same as religion. God is not the same as religion. God does or does not exist independent of any faith that worships Him. Think about it, people were on Earth for countless centuries before the God of the Bible was ever worshipped. If said God exists, He went most of human history without anyone worshipping Him. That's why Zeus is pissed right now. He exists, but few believe it. The religion that worshipped him fell out of favor.

If God exists you can bet he's not a Muslim, Jew or Christian.
All that proves is that man wrote a book. It does not prove that man made religion.
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History proves nothing about religion.
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If man wrote the religious text, then man invented said religion.
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If man wrote the religious text, then man invented said religion.
How so? Did the writer of an article make the magazine or did the owner who was directing what was written?
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YOUR government? Excuse me but if you did some serious research you would know that this country was built on Christian values. This country didn't start to go to hell until religion was forced out of our schools. All you have to do is look around you, in this day and age, just how safe do you feel? When children are not even taught the most basic of moral values what do you expect to get but rebellion, violence, disrespect for anything including human life. All I can say is that many are deluded but one day all will know the truth, however, not all will be happy about it when it occurs.
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YOUR government? Excuse me but if you did some serious research you would know that this country was built on Christian values. This country didn't start to go to hell until religion was forced out of our schools. All you have to do is look around you, in this day and age, just how safe do you feel? When children are not even taught the most basic of moral values what do you expect to get but rebellion, violence, disrespect for anything including human life. All I can say is that many are deluded but one day all will know the truth, however, not all will be happy about it when it occurs.
I've tried that argument my friend King's Child.

I agree with you. However I was deemed as "rude and combative".

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Good post!

Let's see the atheist make up a religion that over 2 BILLION people will follow.
Massive amounts of people following something doesn't lend credibility to it.

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All that proves is that man wrote a book. It does not prove that man made religion.
How does it not? They wrote the foundations for all religions...

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