Atheist double standards. - Page 4

DanishDynamite · #31 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyside

Again, to a degree this is might be what I'm talking about. Do you not think that the religious fell Atheist and other religious are deluded?

Sorry, could you explain that bit again? I'm not trying to be difficult, I just don't understand your last sentence.

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However they are criticized when they don't act nicely. If you want to not be nice yourself but feel it is wrong should the person on the other side do the same to you than you're a hypocrite.

In general, if you can't take what you are dishing out, you should not dish out. I agree completely.

sunnyside · #32 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DanishDynamite

Sorry, could you explain that bit again? I'm not trying to be difficult, I just don't understand your last sentence.

Many Atheists believe it is not hypocritical for them to be rude to/slam religion/push atheism in ways that there would be very upset should a religious person act that way.

The believe this is fair because they feel that they are correct and the religious people are deluded.

I was just pointing out that the relgious people feel that they are correct and that it is the Atheists who are deluded.

DanishDynamite · #33 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyside

Many Atheists believe it is not hypocritical for them to be rude to/slam religion/push atheism in ways that there would be very upset should a religious person act that way.

The believe this is fair because they feel that they are correct and the religious people are deluded.

I don't think any atheist thinks it is hypocritical for non-atheists to respond in kind. I suspect the reverse is also true.

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I was just pointing out that the relgious people feel that they are correct and that it is the Atheists who are deluded.

No doubt.

I'm in favor of free speech.

sunnyside · #34 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DanishDynamite

I don't think any atheist thinks it is hypocritical for non-atheists to respond in kind. I suspect the reverse is also true.
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No they think it's "wrong" if someone who was religious acted that way. For example if during a talk at a technical confereces I started calling Atheists stupid.

Or more the way it goes in these boards if a religious person started ripping on atheists in some fairly unrelated thread.

However they don't feel it is wrong when they do these things.

That is the hypocracy.

And I think we generally agree about this.

DanishDynamite · #35 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyside

No they think it's "wrong" if someone who was religious acted that way. For example if during a talk at a technical confereces I started calling Atheists stupid.

That would be wrong and disruptive. You should be evicted.

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Or more the way it goes in these boards if a religious person started ripping on atheists in some fairly unrelated thread.

That would also be wrong. People should stick to the the point of the OP.

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However they don't feel it is wrong when they do these things.

Evidence? They certainly should know so.

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That is the hypocracy.

And I think we generally agree about this.

I agree that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. And anyone who doesn't understand this is a hypocrite.

B L Zeebub · #36 (**permalink**) 04-19-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DanishDynamite

That would be wrong and disruptive. You should be evicted.

That would also be wrong. People should stick to the the point of the OP.

Evidence? They certainly should know so.

I agree that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. And anyone who doesn't understand this is a hypocrite.

I would agree,and I cant be wrong, for I am the first Athiest God, follow me and I will make you an eater of Foi Gras, now thats a Canard

sunnyside · #37 (**permalink**) 04-20-2008, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DanishDynamite

Evidence? They certainly should know so.

Well the conference thing is from personel experience. Now usually the response to something like that is to say that one personal experience doesn't mean anything. However the fact that it happened at all shows much about the climate in academia.

I'm afraid that there aren't any studies regarding this to show you for evidence.

All I ask is watch for it and call people on it.

Herkdriver · #38 (**permalink**) 04-21-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sunnyside

The post I quoted was just an example. It's been my experience for some time that you can't even discuss something like Star Trek online without something like that creeping in.

And of course you get obnoxious people in any issue. However they tend to not endorse a similar double standard. For example people on either side of the abortion issue will vote based on it, maybe picket, call names etc, but they wouldn't call it unfair if the people on the other side did the same thing.

I'm sure there are some people here and there who do.

However I feel like it's a commonly held opinion amongst atheists that it's fundamentally wrong for everybody else to put someone down for their beliefs or lack thereof, vote based on it, evangalize about it etc, but it is perfectly fine for them to do so.

Atheists are spiritually dead folks with nothing to look forward to but oblivion.
As a drowning man will sometimes do, they drown the rescuer.
They claim to have no fear of death, which is a lie in most instances.
I view them as my spiritual enemies, but bear in mind this is a battle of the heart, not of the body.

"Illegitimi non carborundum"

Do not let the bastards grind you down.

Tuatara · #39 (**permalink**) 04-21-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Herkdriver

Atheists are spiritually dead folks with nothing to look forward to but oblivion.
As a drowning man will sometimes do, they drown the rescuer.
They claim to have no fear of death, which is a lie in most instances.
I view them as my spiritual enemies, but bear in mind this is a battle of the heart, not of the body.

"Illegitimi non carborundum"

Do not let the bastards grind you down.

A big fat lie. I am an atheist and I fear death. I think if one was religious they shouldn't fear death. Aren't they going to a better place according to their beliefs? When a loved one dies shouldn't they be happy for them...especially if they were in pain?

Herkdriver · #40 (**permalink**) 04-21-2008, 09:50 AM

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A big fat lie. I am an atheist and I fear death. I think if one was religious they shouldn't fear death. Aren't they going to a better place according to their beliefs? When a loved one dies shouldn't they be happy for them...especially if they were in pain?

Atheism is the absence of belief in deities.
There is no empirical evidence that they exist, therefore the atheist chooses not to
believe in them.

What I do see empirical evidence of, is what has happened to our culture when God has been kicked out of public schools. Our culture is declining. That's what I see empirical evidence of. There is a strong correlation between Faith and values.

No Faith, reduced values.

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