I must have missed one, regardless this is about free speech not in a muslim country, are you giving them a pass for their violence, is that what I hear you saying?

Why is it that the defenders of these actions from muslims need to throw in Christians? Your last sentence is quite pathetic raytri, tell us when the last time Christians acted in that manner ?

BTW, I'm not a Christian or of any religion, so I have no dog in that fight. I am for the freedom of religion, and more importantly, the freedom of speech, but not the freedom of violence because you don't like what I say.

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Cheney is the second executive officer to shoot someone in the face and chest. Clinton was the first.

You must have missed this one I posted;

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/...inst_chri.html

Amazing the lefts loons attitude towards violence that comes from muslims the world over. "Oh well, it's their culture", "they are just trying to adjust to our modern ways". Give it a rest, they are murderers period, and there is no justification for that behavior. You would be as reviled if I tried to defend hitler.

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Cheney is the second executive officer to shoot someone in the face and chest. Clinton was the first.

Oh, c'mon Bronco. Don't be so wild-eyed. You're condemning an entire religion for the actions of a few. I'm simply saying that's ridiculous. Condemn the terrorists, not everyone who uses the same holy book.

I don't see Christians turning out in huge numbers to denounce the Westboro Baptist Church nutjobs, do you? Sure, you ask an individual Christian and he'll say they're nuts and don't represent Christianity. But nobody expects Christians to be out marching and waving banners, or to comment every time the WBC idiots picket another funeral.

Which is as it should be. It doesn't make sense to assume that a billion Christians (or a billion Muslims) support terrorism simply because they don't go in front of TV cameras every day to denounce it.

Medieval times. And I've stated many times that large areas of the Muslim world are inhabited by people still living in medieval tribal cultures. So my point is that if they were Christian, they would practice a medieval form of Christianity. The problem is the culture, not the specific religion.

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So by your last statement, it is a pass. Please don't patronize us with saying, "it's just a few". There were hundreds of thousands in every part of the world when this story broke, and the intelligence says that they were whipped into a frenzy by Iran, and Syria.

The bottom line again, this is not the middle east, it is not a muslim country, and what those of us want to say about any religion is our right, it is freedom of speech. You continue to use Christians as some kind of sounding board, tell me how many Christians threatened to kill the artist that mocked Jesus with feces? Disgusting? you bet... threatening his life? didn't happen.

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Cheney is the second executive officer to shoot someone in the face and chest. Clinton was the first.

Oh, are those evil Baptists flying planes into buildings, blowing up buses and trains, kidnapping and beheading innocent people and videotaping it for broadcast?

There were hundreds of thousands of terrorists? (*)(*)(*)(*). We're outnumbered.

Those protests were because people thought their prophet was being defamed. It had nothing to do with supporting terrorism. Just like I'm not likely to make much headway with the Catholic Church by posting pictures of the Pope sodomizing young boys. It doesn't matter what I'm trying to say; the way I tried to say it drowns out the content of the message.

I come from a Western democracy that values free speech, from a culture with a long tradition not only of protecting speech, but developing the tolerance necessary to do so.

So I do not support the violence of the protests, or the notion that the cartoonists deserved to be killed.

But I also understand that cultures differ, and someone raised in, say, Afghanistan does not have the same long tradition of free speech and tolerance. So to expect them to react with tolerance and a reverence for free speech is simply ridiculous.

That does not mean I'm giving them a pass; I thing free speech should be a universal value, and do not believe things like "democracy is only for white westerners." But I do recognize that people responding in culturally predictable ways to incitement does not mean that Muslims are all violent terrorists.

Agreed, of course.

That's largely because this is a Christian country, and I'm trying to show that you're holding Christians and Muslims to different standards. If we were in India, I'd be using Hindus in my examples.

Again, you're expecting medieval tribal cultures to somehow have, overnight, the principles and coping mechanisms that took the West centuries to develop. I freely admit that I think their attitude is inferior; but you're holding them to an unrealistic standard.

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No. So? You're saying that if a Christian did do that, it would be incumbent upon all Christians to immediately hit the streets to denounce the act? And I could assume that any Christians that didn't do so, supported the attack?

I do seem to recall a Christian blowing up several people at the Olympics. And still others gunned down abortion doctors in their homes. I don't recall mass protest marches by Christians. Nor do I recall anyone demanding that such were needed.

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You got it right Billy

I'm saying that the comparison between muslim mass murderers and Christian loudmouths is stupid.

Who was that?

How many doctors were gunned down in their homes? How many 'Christians' were involved?

There is no part of the Christian religion which demands the elimination of all non Christian people. The Koran, however, has such a decree against all non muslims.

didnt happen? and you know this because...

raytri, just let the bigots have their circle jerk. (*)(*)(*)(*)ed muslims and their muslim ways. the ones that call themselves christians never do anything wrong, its those (*)(*)(*)(*)ed islamians! skeet, skeet, skeet.

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