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Can anyone point to the muslim outrage of trying to assassinate someone for their free speech? The case in point is the Danish cartoonist. If these are isolated incidences, where is the muslim outrage condemning the acts of killing someone for their free speech?

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'Terror plot' to kill Mohammed cartoonist

Or how about the appeasement of the Spanish withdrawal from Iraq, thinking if they just leave, al qaeda will just leave them alone, NOT! This is the lunacy of the left thinking appeasers, they haven't figured out that if you are not muslim, you are then an infidel, and you must die in the name of islam, you know, that peaceful religion.

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LONDON -- British intelligence agents say they have stopped a plan to bomb London's Underground rail system and other transportation facilities in "the most dangerous threat since the July 7 bombers struck against the capital's transport system two years ago."

Britain's Security Service delivered that message to Prime Minister Gordon Brown after defusing a plan experts said emanated from a suspected al-Qaida cell in Barcelona.

According to the experts, officers in the Spanish internal security service, GC, in Barcelona uncovered a suspected al-Qaida cell in the city in January. The cell -- hiding in several "safe houses" around the city -- reportedly planned to detonate suicide bombs on the Barcelona Metro.
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Can anyone point to the muslim outrage of trying to assassinate someone for their free speech?
No - not me ....

There seems to be a feeling that they are justified in chopping the heads off people because either they feel offended by others comments/cartoons of their relegion. Or they feel blowing up people on the tube is OK because they disagree with the Governements foreign policy and their involvment in the Iraq war.

Although the extreamists do these actions the rest of the Muslim community needs to become outraged by the actions done in their name - instead the silence speaks volumes
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There seems to be a feeling that they are justified in chopping the heads off people because either they feel offended by others comments/cartoons of their relegion. Or they feel blowing up people on the tube is OK because they disagree with the Governements foreign policy and their involvment in the Iraq war.

Although the extreamists do these actions the rest of the Muslim community needs to become outraged by the actions done in their name - instead the silence speaks volumes
I am not sure how accurate that is. The majority of Muslims do not support chopping off people's heads or blowing people up. And where is this occuring? In areas ripped apart by lawlessness or war where the government is either corrupt or weak.

Many muslims do speak out against it. Why don't we hear about it? Perhaps we should ask the media. Maybe it makes for less interesting news then blowing people up.

One could also ask why aren't more Christians speaking out against comments made by religious leaders concerning the AIDS epidemic? Answer - like Islam, it's a diverse and sometimes contentious community that doesn't tend to speak with one voice. It's expected of Muslims but not, apparently, of other religious groups to apologize for the actions of it's extremists.
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Can anyone point to the muslim outrage of trying to assassinate someone for their free speech? The case in point is the Danish cartoonist. If these are isolated incidences, where is the muslim outrage condemning the acts of killing someone for their free speech?
absolutely! with free speech comes responsibility for free speech. with responsibility for free speech come the consequences of free speech.

the immigrants were invited to do the great whites dirty work and support the social welfare network the great whites depend upon. and on top of that the great whites insult their prophet!

read this from a human rights watch group and you will know who sinned!

Human rights watchdog: Islamophobia on the rise in Holland





Islamophobia has increased dramatically in the Netherlands following recent terrorist attacks in Europe, a human rights watchdog warned Tuesday, with Muslims the subject of stereotyping, stigmatization

and frequent racist violence.



In a harshly worded report, the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance said even Dutch politicians have resorted to derogatory remarks about Muslims in recent years, and that racist discourse has remained "as a rule" Unchallenged by mainstream political parties. (AP)

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the dutch are the occupying power in holland and thus must consider the subject minorities sensibilities.
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the dutch are the occupying power in holland and thus must consider the subject minorities sensibilities.
Who are the dutch oppressing with their occupation? The Gaels or the Visigoths?
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their invited guest, the fecund moslems.
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absolutely! with free speech comes responsibility for free speech. with responsibility for free speech come the consequences of free speech.

the immigrants were invited to do the great whites dirty work and support the social welfare network the great whites depend upon. and on top of that the great whites insult their prophet!

read this from a human rights watch group and you will know who sinned!

Human rights watchdog: Islamophobia on the rise in Holland





Islamophobia has increased dramatically in the Netherlands following recent terrorist attacks in Europe, a human rights watchdog warned Tuesday, with Muslims the subject of stereotyping, stigmatization

and frequent racist violence.



In a harshly worded report, the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance said even Dutch politicians have resorted to derogatory remarks about Muslims in recent years, and that racist discourse has remained "as a rule" Unchallenged by mainstream political parties. (AP)
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I am not sure how accurate that is. The majority of Muslims do not support chopping off people's heads or blowing people up. And where is this occuring? In areas ripped apart by lawlessness or war where the government is either corrupt or weak.

Many muslims do speak out against it. Why don't we hear about it? Perhaps we should ask the media. Maybe it makes for less interesting news then blowing people up.

One could also ask why aren't more Christians speaking out against comments made by religious leaders concerning the AIDS epidemic? Answer - like Islam, it's a diverse and sometimes contentious community that doesn't tend to speak with one voice. It's expected of Muslims but not, apparently, of other religious groups to apologize for the actions of it's extremists.
What do Christians have to do with this subject. Try and stay on track, this is about muslims threatening to blow up a Dutch artist, and the other story is blowing up trains in Spain and England. These are not areas of lawlessness.

The point of this entire post is there is no outrage for freedom of speech coming from the muslims, and the other article is the appeasers from Spain now have an al qaeda cell in their country threatening to blow up their trains, after Spain tried playing nice with al qaeda.

muslim murder is occurring everywhere on planet earth, and the silence is golden from muslims, kill the infidels that would denigrate our god.
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Many muslims do speak out against it. Why don't we hear about it? Perhaps we should ask the media. Maybe it makes for less interesting news then blowing people up.
If you could point out a large vocal demonstration made by many Muslims speaking out against violence such as that done in their name, please point this out. To blame the media for this wreaks of a cop out. Show us links made by Muslim leaders that speak out against fatwas calling for death of Americans or those of the west. Where's the voice of Islam that is against terror? Why wait on the media? Why not use the internet?

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One could also ask why aren't more Christians speaking out against comments made by religious leaders concerning the AIDS epidemic? Answer - like Islam, it's a diverse and sometimes contentious community that doesn't tend to speak with one voice. It's expected of Muslims but not, apparently, of other religious groups to apologize for the actions of it's extremists.
I'm a Christian who doesn't believe Dobson, Falwell, or Huckabee speak for me. I've denounced those who make silly statements about the AIDS epidemic, but I'll be the first to say that making unpopular statements about AIDS victims isn't quite the same as killing 3000 people on a single day in the name of Allah. Furthermore, we here in America have a concept called the freedom of speech. That is to say that we allow unpopular speech to be said in hopes that we too can speak our minds as well. We don't silence people in our society without very good reason. Being an unpopular voice isn't one of those reasons.

The Muslim community has a serious problem with public relations right now. You can try to point the finger at other things, but until moderate Muslims stand up against the radical factions in a big way there's going to be a lot more suffering in their future. The backlash now is going to pale in comparison to that of the future should their inaction allow more blatant attacks to happen.
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